WHICH IS THE REAL GOD?

[Bill M]

The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.

There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?



Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?



Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.



Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!



Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?



What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.



The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.

Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.



Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God



There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?



Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;



Baha'i Sacrid writtings

Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon

The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.

No originals of the old or new testaments exist.

The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints

The Analects - Confuscianism

The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs

Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome

Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism

Qur'an - Islam

Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs

Tanakh - Jewism

Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism

Nag Hammadi - Gnostics

Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong



Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.



Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[Protagonist]

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.

God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there
was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

Post by Bill M
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[bob young]

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there
was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

He didn't. The story tellers that made a living telling entertaining much needed
yarns around the evening camp fires did all of the communicating.

The stories were remembered and later written down.

They had plenty of time - it went on like this for tens of thousands of years
until the yarns became instinctive to the extent modern man can recognize them
and still be made to feel incredulous.

It's all in the mind.

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[Protagonist]

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there
was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

He didn't. The story tellers that made a living telling entertaining much needed
yarns around the evening camp fires did all of the communicating.
The stories were remembered and later written down.
They had plenty of time - it went on like this for tens of thousands of years
until the yarns became instinctive to the extent modern man can recognize them
and still be made to feel incredulous.
It's all in the mind.

Those people lived with nature lot more than you, civilized men!
So they felt it a lot more than any one else!
One can't even see the stars from a cities now days!
JS

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[bob young]

Post by Protagonist

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there
was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

He didn't. The story tellers that made a living telling entertaining much needed
yarns around the evening camp fires did all of the communicating.
The stories were remembered and later written down.
They had plenty of time - it went on like this for tens of thousands of years
until the yarns became instinctive to the extent modern man can recognize them
and still be made to feel incredulous.
It's all in the mind.

Those people lived with nature lot more than you, civilized men!
So they felt it a lot more than any one else!
One can't even see the stars from a cities now days!
JS

what was it 'they felt' ?

Post by Protagonist

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[Protagonist]

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the creations
of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there
was no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

He didn't. The story tellers that made a living telling entertaining much needed
yarns around the evening camp fires did all of the communicating.
The stories were remembered and later written down.
They had plenty of time - it went on like this for tens of thousands of years
until the yarns became instinctive to the extent modern man can recognize them
and still be made to feel incredulous.
It's all in the mind.

Those people lived with nature lot more than you, civilized men!
So they felt it a lot more than any one else!
One can't even see the stars from a cities now days!
JS

what was it 'they felt' ?

Go out camping for a week, than you'll find out.
Live the power boat,TV, stereo home!
JS

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by bob young

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that any god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in MEN.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. The objective EVIDENCE is
they are purely myths and fables.
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There are is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
No originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Mormon, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the
creations of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a
REAL god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead
and confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and
the Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there was
no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

Bill's god or devil is a created invisible being in the sky, which
definitely does not exist, and no one in his right mind expects to exist.
But Bill will not believe that, for he still keeps asking people to prove
his god's existence. It's sad to watch his confusion and we need to pray for
him.

Pastor Frank

"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:
The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of
whatever is your standard of virtue against which you measure all behaviour.
I.e. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of
this world", i.e. reality. And again in Philippians 3:19, Paul says there
are people: "...whose God (theos) is their belly", i.e. pleasure. Jesus
tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT, i.e. akin to a quality of
attitude, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in
truth."
Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the
way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE
KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM."
Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us."
Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am
in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak
not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples,
if ye have love one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another,
as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.

[Ghamph]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the
creations of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a
REAL god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead
and confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and
the Internet.

Bill's god or devil is a created invisible being in the sky, which
definitely does not exist, and no one in his right mind expects to exist.

Now we can all agree, at last.

[bob young]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Protagonist

Post by Bill M
The obvious evidence is that all god beliefs are no more than the
creations of man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a
REAL god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead
and confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and
the Internet.

That's called the RF!
Radio frequency, or RF, is a frequency or rate of oscillation within the
range of about 3 Hz and 300 GHz.
God don't use RF, but mans mined and soul.
Can you see or hear RF without some sort manufactured converting device,
like radio, TV etc.. invented by man?
No!
So how did GOD communicate with man thousands of years ago, when there was
no radio or the knowledge to build one?
JS

Bill's god or devil is a created invisible being in the sky,

Lies, lies and more lies.

Bill like me denies all gods wherever nut caes claim they be.

If you cannot defend your belief without resorting to trickery you are a sad
case

[Hey - wait a minute - it's all to do with magic and trickery in the first
place isn't it?
.... I forgot]

Post by Pastor Frank
which
definitely does not exist, and no one in his right mind expects to exist.
But Bill will not believe that, for he still keeps asking people to prove
his god's existence. It's sad to watch his confusion and we need to pray for
him.
Pastor Frank
The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of
whatever is your standard of virtue against which you measure all behaviour.
I.e. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of
this world", i.e. reality. And again in Philippians 3:19, Paul says there
are people: "...whose God (theos) is their belly", i.e. pleasure. Jesus
tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT, i.e. akin to a quality of
attitude, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in
truth."
Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the
way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE
KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM."
Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us."
Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am
in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak
not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom of
God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one
another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples,
if ye have love one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another,
as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
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