Bill M
2008-05-08 09:50:31 UTC
5-5-2008
This is both an invitation and a challenge to religionists to provide
objective verifiable evidence that there is some REAL God that we need to
cater to.
A primary one is that there are thousands of different gods and god beliefs.
Any REAL god would surely make it abundantly clear, that he is the real god
and all the others are fakes. He would surely use his unlimited power to
expose and eliminate all the fakes. Why would he permit his creations to be
misled by all these false gods?
If there was a REAL god, would he not destroy the thousands of false gods
and
establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his heaven.
If man, created by god, can communicate with the whole world by Phone,
Radio, the Internet and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god
to communicate directly with his creations without thousands of
intermediates of questionable veracity.
Why would not a real god announce directly and authoritatively from his
heaven,
that he is the real god and what documents are authentic and which are fakes
and
destroy them? He certainly should want to prevent his creations from being.
deceived and mislead
Although billions of people have died there is not a single 'authenticated
and proven'
case where anyone of them has ever communicated with their living children,
spouses or friends.
Why would god not allow these souls in his heaven to explain and confirm the
virtues, benefits and even the existence of his heaven? Logic says it is
because they
don't exist except in peoples imaginations!
Religions are ALL based on ancient myths and tales and NO god has directly
AUTHENTICATED ANY of them.
Man can directly communicate with the whole world via TV, the Internet,
Phone and Radio and the postal service. IF there is a real god, why does he
not announce to the whole world from his heaven, by at least equally
effective means, that he is the real god and all the others are fakes? And
why does he not tell us clearly and directly what he expects from us instead
of using hundreds of vague, ancient, contradictory, unoriginal documents,
compiled by different religions and hundreds of men of unknown veracity? Why
does he not expose and smite all the false gods and doctrines?
An all powerful creator of this huge Universe would have no need or desire
for people to sing hymns and waste their time on their knees in adulation
and building expensive churches that no god ever visits from his elegant
heaven. This type of thing is the practice of greedy leaders with a need to
satisfy their selfish egos.
An all powerful creator of this huge Universe and everything in it would
have no need or desire to create, Sin, Devils, Evil, Spirits or Hells
There would be no need for basing ones life on 'FAITH' and the preaching's
of errant selfish men because we would have direct communication and
authentification directly from this all powerful REAL god
There is no evidence that any of these gods communicate with any honest or
fully sane persons.
No dead fathers, mothers relatives or friends ever verify there heaven or
hell with their living siblings or friends.
There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs.
They can't all be true and no REAL god would permit this massive deception
of his creations.
Major religions;
Baha'i Faith
Buddhism
Adventist
Jehovah's Witnesses
British Israelism
Southern Baptists
American Baptists
Catholics
Christina religions - dozens of them
Christian Science
Amish
Brethren
Mennonites
Quakers
Shakers
Plymouth Brethren
Fundamentalists
Twin Oaks
Confucianism
Hinduism
Islam
Jainism
Judaism
Shinto
Sikhism
Taoism
Vodun (Voodoo)
Neopagan Religious Faiths
Asatru (Norse Paganism)
Druidism
Goddess Worship
Wicca
Witchcraft
Caodaism
Damanhur Community
Druse
Eckankar
Elian Gonzalez religious movement
Gnosticism
Gypsies
Hare Krishna - ISKCON
Lukumi
Macumba
Mowahhidoon
Native American Spirituality
Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies)
Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement
Satanism; The Church of Satan
Scientology
Unitarian-Universalism
The Creativity Movement
Zoroastrianism
Any all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent designer, would
not create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes,
Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body
malfunctions and starvation all of which punish people indiscriminately
regardless of their behavior or religious beliefs. If he did he would not be
an all loving all caring god but a brutal malevolent creature or nothing at
all. There are 12,000 known diseases that torture and kill man. The reality
is that no all loving and all powerful god would create or permit these
diseases to punish men of all religious persuasion and particularly totally
INNOCENT CHILDREN.
Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?
Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is things
seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of man. These
beliefs are held to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what
comes after.
When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist. The LACK of evidence is not evidence
of something's existence.
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (thousands of them!)
This is both an invitation and a challenge to religionists to provide
objective verifiable evidence that there is some REAL God that we need to
cater to.
A primary one is that there are thousands of different gods and god beliefs.
Any REAL god would surely make it abundantly clear, that he is the real god
and all the others are fakes. He would surely use his unlimited power to
expose and eliminate all the fakes. Why would he permit his creations to be
misled by all these false gods?
If there was a REAL god, would he not destroy the thousands of false gods
and
establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his heaven.
If man, created by god, can communicate with the whole world by Phone,
Radio, the Internet and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god
to communicate directly with his creations without thousands of
intermediates of questionable veracity.
Why would not a real god announce directly and authoritatively from his
heaven,
that he is the real god and what documents are authentic and which are fakes
and
destroy them? He certainly should want to prevent his creations from being.
deceived and mislead
Although billions of people have died there is not a single 'authenticated
and proven'
case where anyone of them has ever communicated with their living children,
spouses or friends.
Why would god not allow these souls in his heaven to explain and confirm the
virtues, benefits and even the existence of his heaven? Logic says it is
because they
don't exist except in peoples imaginations!
Religions are ALL based on ancient myths and tales and NO god has directly
AUTHENTICATED ANY of them.
Man can directly communicate with the whole world via TV, the Internet,
Phone and Radio and the postal service. IF there is a real god, why does he
not announce to the whole world from his heaven, by at least equally
effective means, that he is the real god and all the others are fakes? And
why does he not tell us clearly and directly what he expects from us instead
of using hundreds of vague, ancient, contradictory, unoriginal documents,
compiled by different religions and hundreds of men of unknown veracity? Why
does he not expose and smite all the false gods and doctrines?
An all powerful creator of this huge Universe would have no need or desire
for people to sing hymns and waste their time on their knees in adulation
and building expensive churches that no god ever visits from his elegant
heaven. This type of thing is the practice of greedy leaders with a need to
satisfy their selfish egos.
An all powerful creator of this huge Universe and everything in it would
have no need or desire to create, Sin, Devils, Evil, Spirits or Hells
There would be no need for basing ones life on 'FAITH' and the preaching's
of errant selfish men because we would have direct communication and
authentification directly from this all powerful REAL god
There is no evidence that any of these gods communicate with any honest or
fully sane persons.
No dead fathers, mothers relatives or friends ever verify there heaven or
hell with their living siblings or friends.
There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs.
They can't all be true and no REAL god would permit this massive deception
of his creations.
Major religions;
Baha'i Faith
Buddhism
Adventist
Jehovah's Witnesses
British Israelism
Southern Baptists
American Baptists
Catholics
Christina religions - dozens of them
Christian Science
Amish
Brethren
Mennonites
Quakers
Shakers
Plymouth Brethren
Fundamentalists
Twin Oaks
Confucianism
Hinduism
Islam
Jainism
Judaism
Shinto
Sikhism
Taoism
Vodun (Voodoo)
Neopagan Religious Faiths
Asatru (Norse Paganism)
Druidism
Goddess Worship
Wicca
Witchcraft
Caodaism
Damanhur Community
Druse
Eckankar
Elian Gonzalez religious movement
Gnosticism
Gypsies
Hare Krishna - ISKCON
Lukumi
Macumba
Mowahhidoon
Native American Spirituality
Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies)
Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement
Satanism; The Church of Satan
Scientology
Unitarian-Universalism
The Creativity Movement
Zoroastrianism
Any all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent designer, would
not create Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes,
Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body
malfunctions and starvation all of which punish people indiscriminately
regardless of their behavior or religious beliefs. If he did he would not be
an all loving all caring god but a brutal malevolent creature or nothing at
all. There are 12,000 known diseases that torture and kill man. The reality
is that no all loving and all powerful god would create or permit these
diseases to punish men of all religious persuasion and particularly totally
INNOCENT CHILDREN.
Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods;
Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a god?
Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven. Science is things
seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of man. These
beliefs are held to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what
comes after.
When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist. The LACK of evidence is not evidence
of something's existence.
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (thousands of them!)