EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD

[Bill M]

I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?

How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.

If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.

Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???

[SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim]

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with
some objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???

nope, all gods, including the muslim and christian gods are nothing but
total and complete horseshit.

the bible is nothing more than the bullshit ramblings of some superstitious
cave dwellers and goat fuckers

[Bill M]

Evidence of an authentic god is that there are hundreds of them and NONE of
them have actually spoken to us or saved us from painful accidents or
diseases!

The only authentic god is those in peoples over active imaginations!

in God as their whole and everlasting
portion; and of their ardent and longing desire after God, to have
communion with Him; and others, more of their abhorrence to themselves
for their past sins, and earnest longings to live to God's glory for the
time to come. But it seems evidently to be the same work, the same
habitual change wrought in the heart; it all tends the same way, and to
the same end; and it is plainly the same spirit that breathes and acts
in various persons. There is an endless variety in the particular manner
and circumstances in which persons are wrought on; and an opportunity of
seeing so much will show that God is further from confining Himself to a
particular method in His work on souls than some imagine. I believe it
has occasioned some good people amongst us, who were before too ready to
make their own experience a rule to others, to be less censorious and
more extended in their charity; and this is an excellent advantage
indeed. The work of God has been glorious in its variety; it has the
more displayed the manifold and unsearchable wisdom of God, and wrought
more charity among His people.
There is a great difference among those who are converted, as to the
degree of hope and satisfaction they have concerning their own state.
Some have a high degree of satisfaction in this matter almost
constantly; and yet it is rare that any enjoy so full an assurance of
their interest in Christ that self-examination should seem needless to
them; unless it be at particular seasons, while in the actual enjoyment
of some great discovery God gives of His glory and rich grace in Christ,
to the drawing forth of extraordinary acts of grace. But the greater
part, as they sometimes fall into dead frames of spirit, are frequently
exercised with scruples and fears concerning their condition.
They generally have an awful apprehension of the dreadful nature of a
false hope; and there has been observable in most

[Michael Gray]

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Post by Bill M
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???

[Christopher A.Lee]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

[Michael Gray]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee

Post by Christopher A.Lee
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.

Can you define a "god"?

[Christopher A.Lee]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:43:38 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee

Post by Christopher A.Lee
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.
Can you define a "god"?

Only in terms of the belief and who believes it.

[Michael Gray]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:13:11 -0500, Christopher A.Lee

Post by Christopher A.Lee
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:43:38 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee

Post by Christopher A.Lee
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.
Can you define a "god"?

Only in terms of the belief and who believes it.

Then how is that different from my above offering?
Or how does it exclude them?

The belief and the believers in the above are extant, numerous, and
utterly sincere.
I do not understand the "essential" difference between your
definition, and my clear examples of same.

I have quizzed many folk, atheist and not, but am yet to get a
coherent and consistent reply, apart from "Apostate", (I think), who
agrees with me.

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Christopher A.Lee
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.

I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan

Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

"God" has nothing to do with physical things, like the sun, Prince
Philip or even the Emperor of Japan, but with spiritual matters of quality
and perfection. No wonder you are an atheist, for you are totally clueless
as to what anything means.

Pastor Frank

Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him, (Jesus
in John 3:3)

[Richard Anacker]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Christopher A.Lee
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

"God" has nothing to do with physical things, like the sun, Prince
Philip or even the Emperor of Japan, but with spiritual matters of quality
and perfection. No wonder you are an atheist, for you are totally clueless
as to what anything means.

read again, pastor.

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Christopher A.Lee
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.

You non't understand that, do you?

greets
richie

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[bob young]

Post by Bill M
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???

We certainly should not, if we are to avoid the next world conflagration that
could well be called 'The first Nuclear reiigious word War' it may well wipe
half of us out when Islam gets parity with the West in terms of nuclear weapons

[Bill M]

This appears to be a forgery.

in God as their whole and everlasting
portion; and of their ardent and longing desire after God, to have
communion with Him; and others, more of their abhorrence to themselves
for their past sins, and earnest longings to live to God's glory for the
time to come. But it seems evidently to be the same work, the same
habitual change wrought in the heart; it all tends the same way, and to
the same end; and it is plainly the same spirit that breathes and acts
in various persons. There is an endless variety in the particular manner
and circumstances in which persons are wrought on; and an opportunity of
seeing so much will show that God is further from confining Himself to a
particular method in His work on souls than some imagine. I believe it
has occasioned some good people amongst us, who were before too ready to
make their own experience a rule to others, to be less censorious and
more extended in their charity; and this is an excellent advantage
indeed. The work of God has been glorious in its variety; it has the
more displayed the manifold and unsearchable wisdom of God, and wrought
more charity among His people.
There is a great difference among those who are converted, as to the
degree of hope and satisfaction they have concerning their own state.
Some have a high degree of satisfaction in this matter almost
constantly; and yet it is rare that any enjoy so full an assurance of
their interest in Christ that self-examination should seem needless to
them; unless it be at particular seasons, while in the actual enjoyment
of some great discovery God gives of His glory and rich grace in Christ,
to the drawing forth of extraordinary acts of grace. But the greater
part, as they sometimes fall into dead frames of spirit, are frequently
exercised with scruples and fears concerning their condition.
They generally have an awful apprehension of the dreadful nature of a
false hope; and there has been observable in most

[SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim]

Post by Bill M
This appears to be a forgery.

yes that was a forgery, the christian nutcases don't pay attention to the
news server it's coming from for one of the most basic things . .

it is quite comical to upset the christian nuts and the lengths they go to

amazing that the christian retards an NEVER provide any OBJECTABLE,
VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for their horseshit claims
.
LMAO