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Greek Religion on its Way Back
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Turin
2007-01-25 18:58:11 UTC
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Posted on Mon, Jan. 22, 2007
Ancient Greek religion is resurrected

A group of modern pagans, campaigning to revive the ancient
Greek religion and bearing a message of peace, honored Zeus
with a ceremony in Athens.

BY PARIS AYIOMAMITIS
Associated Press

ATHENS - A group of modern pagans honored Zeus at a nearly
2,000-year-old temple in the heart of Athens on Sunday --
the first known ceremony of its kind held there since the
ancient Greek religion was outlawed by the Roman empire in
the late fourth century.

Watched by curious onlookers, 20 worshipers gathered next to
the ruins of the temple for a celebration organized by
Ellinais, a year-old Athens-based group that is campaigning
to revive old religious practices from the era when Greece
was a fount of education and philosophy.

The group ignored a ban by the Culture Ministry, which
declared the site off limits to organized activity to
protect the monument. But participants did not try to enter
the temple itself, which is closed to everyone, and no
officials sought to stop the ceremony.

Dressed in ancient costumes, worshipers standing near the
temple's imposing Corinthian columns recited hymns calling
on the Olympian Zeus, ''King of the gods and the mover of
things,'' to bring peace to the world.

''Our message is world peace and an ecological way of life
in which everyone has the right to education,'' said Kostas
Stathopoulos, one of three ''high priests'' overseeing the
event, which celebrated the nuptials of Zeus and Hera, the
goddess of love and marriage.

To the Greeks, ecological awareness was fundamental,
Stathopoulos said after a priestess, with arms raised to the
sky, called on Zeus ``to bring rain to the planet.''

A herald holding a metal staff topped with two snake heads
proclaimed the beginning of the ceremony before priests in
blue and red robes released two white doves as symbols of
peace. A priest poured wine and incense burned on a tiny
copper tripod while a choir chanted hymns.

''Our hymns stress the brotherhood of man and do not single
out nations,'' priest Giorgos Alexelis said.

For the organizers, who follow a calendar marking time from
the first Olympiad in 776 B.C., the ceremony was far more
than a simple recreation.

''We are Greeks and we demand from the government the right
to use our temples,'' high priestess Doreta Peppa said.

Ellinais was founded last year and has 34 official members,
mainly academics, lawyers and other professionals. It won a
court battle for state recognition of the ancient Greek
religion and is demanding the government register its
offices as a place of worship, a move that could allow the
group to perform weddings and other rites.

Christianity rose to prominence in Greece in the fourth
century after Roman Emperor Constantine's conversion.
Emperor Theodosius wiped out the last vestige of the
Olympian gods when he abolished the Olympic Games in A.D.
394. Several pockets of pagan worship lingered as late as
the 9th century.

''The Christians shut down our schools and destroyed our
temples,'' said Yiannis Panagidis, a 36-year-old accountant
at the ceremony.

Most Greeks are baptized Orthodox Christians, and the church
rejects ancient religious practices as pagan.

''We do not believe in dogmas and decrees, as the other
religions do. We believe in freedom of thought,''
Stathopoulos said.





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Anonymous
2007-01-26 01:42:09 UTC
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But since "Zeus" is but another name in another language and
culture for Jehovah, Jupiter, Emperor, Deus, "Dominant one" in
the vulgar Latin, it is readily apparent that some animals are
more equal than other animals in your Anti-Christian mindset.

_All_ men are Created equal. Period. To believe otherwise is,
frankly, un-American, un-Godly, and is blasphemy against the
Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: the latter of whom does
*not* forgive, but requires every indebtedness to be paid in
full, whether you and those of your bigoted & intolerant ilk
"agree" with God's infinite, eternal & univeral word, or not.
"Do what thou wilt" (Leviticus 5:17). Good luck with that. :)

In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
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Turin
2007-01-26 02:29:39 UTC
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I agree. Both pantheons are intolerant in their ways. I
don't know why you're attributing a Crowley quote to
Leviticus 5:17, though.
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But since "Zeus" is but another name in another language
and culture for Jehovah, Jupiter, Emperor, Deus,
"Dominant one" in the vulgar Latin, it is readily
apparent that some animals are more equal than other
animals in your Anti-Christian mindset.
_All_ men are Created equal. Period. To believe otherwise
is, frankly, un-American, un-Godly, and is blasphemy
against the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: the
latter of whom does *not* forgive, but requires every
indebtedness to be paid in full, whether you and those of
your bigoted & intolerant ilk "agree" with God's
infinite, eternal & univeral word, or not. "Do what thou
wilt" (Leviticus 5:17). Good luck with that. :)
In Vigilance, Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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Post by Anonymous
Post by Turin
Posted on Mon, Jan. 22, 2007 Ancient Greek religion is
resurrected
A group of modern pagans, campaigning to revive the
ancient Greek religion and bearing a message of peace,
honored Zeus with a ceremony in Athens.
BY PARIS AYIOMAMITIS Associated Press
ATHENS - A group of modern pagans honored Zeus at a
nearly 2,000-year-old temple in the heart of Athens on
Sunday -- the first known ceremony of its kind held
there since the ancient Greek religion was outlawed by
the Roman empire in the late fourth century.
Watched by curious onlookers, 20 worshipers gathered
next to the ruins of the temple for a celebration
organized by Ellinais, a year-old Athens-based group
that is campaigning to revive old religious practices
from the era when Greece was a fount of education and
philosophy.
The group ignored a ban by the Culture Ministry, which
declared the site off limits to organized activity to
protect the monument. But participants did not try to
enter the temple itself, which is closed to everyone,
and no officials sought to stop the ceremony.
Dressed in ancient costumes, worshipers standing near
the temple's imposing Corinthian columns recited hymns
calling on the Olympian Zeus, ''King of the gods and
the mover of things,'' to bring peace to the world.
''Our message is world peace and an ecological way of
life in which everyone has the right to education,''
said Kostas Stathopoulos, one of three ''high priests''
overseeing the event, which celebrated the nuptials of
Zeus and Hera, the goddess of love and marriage.
To the Greeks, ecological awareness was fundamental,
Stathopoulos said after a priestess, with arms raised
to the sky, called on Zeus ``to bring rain to the
planet.''
A herald holding a metal staff topped with two snake
heads proclaimed the beginning of the ceremony before
priests in blue and red robes released two white doves
as symbols of peace. A priest poured wine and incense
burned on a tiny copper tripod while a choir chanted
hymns.
''Our hymns stress the brotherhood of man and do not
single out nations,'' priest Giorgos Alexelis said.
For the organizers, who follow a calendar marking time
from the first Olympiad in 776 B.C., the ceremony was
far more than a simple recreation.
''We are Greeks and we demand from the government the
right to use our temples,'' high priestess Doreta Peppa
said.
Ellinais was founded last year and has 34 official
members, mainly academics, lawyers and other
professionals. It won a court battle for state
recognition of the ancient Greek religion and is
demanding the government register its offices as a
place of worship, a move that could allow the group to
perform weddings and other rites.
Christianity rose to prominence in Greece in the fourth
century after Roman Emperor Constantine's conversion.
Emperor Theodosius wiped out the last vestige of the
Olympian gods when he abolished the Olympic Games in
A.D. 394. Several pockets of pagan worship lingered as
late as the 9th century.
''The Christians shut down our schools and destroyed
our temples,'' said Yiannis Panagidis, a 36-year-old
accountant at the ceremony.
Most Greeks are baptized Orthodox Christians, and the
church rejects ancient religious practices as pagan.
''We do not believe in dogmas and decrees, as the other
religions do. We believe in freedom of thought,''
Stathopoulos said.
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"This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased;
Turin
I have such sites to show you...
------------------------
http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/ ♂
------------------------
"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth
with, deleteth, or maketh a lie about these words or
causeth them to not be known shall burn in hell forever
and ever...."
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Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
2007-01-26 06:45:44 UTC
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Post by Turin
I agree
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Only your readership, your family, relatives, friends,
associates, allies, enemies, and most importantly God,
can know the veracity of such a "gratuitous" assertion,
one which the facts in evidence do not readily support:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Turin+%***@gmail.com%3E&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=26&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2007&safe=off

"Do what thou wilt" (Leviticus 5:17). Good luck with that.
Perhaps the Show Me State asked the question more clearly?

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
Turin
2007-01-26 19:01:52 UTC
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Disturbing.

BTW, I've contacted both the author of the webpage, who
you're impersonating, and your psychiatric nurse.
Post by Anonymous
Post by Turin
I agree. Both pantheons are intolerant in their ways.
I don't know why you're attributing a Crowley quote to
Leviticus 5:17, though.
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Only your readership, your family, relatives, friends,
associates, allies, enemies, and most importantly God,
can know the veracity of such a "gratuitous" assertion,
"Do what thou wilt" (Leviticus 5:17). Good luck with
that. Perhaps the Show Me State asked the question more
clearly?
Enjoy! Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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But since "Zeus" is but another name in another
language and culture for Jehovah, Jupiter, Emperor,
Deus, "Dominant one" in the vulgar Latin, it is
readily apparent that some animals are more equal
than other animals in your Anti-Christian mindset.
_All_ men are Created equal. Period. To believe
otherwise is, frankly, un-American, un-Godly, and is
blasphemy against the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Ghost: the latter of whom does *not* forgive, but
requires every indebtedness to be paid in full,
whether you and those of your bigoted & intolerant
ilk "agree" with God's infinite, eternal & univeral
word, or not. "Do what thou wilt" (Leviticus 5:17).
Good luck with that. :)
In Vigilance, Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/16515483.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_world
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"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
--William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
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Post by Turin
Post by Anonymous
Post by Turin
Posted on Mon, Jan. 22, 2007 Ancient Greek religion
is resurrected
A group of modern pagans, campaigning to revive the
ancient Greek religion and bearing a message of
peace, honored Zeus with a ceremony in Athens.
BY PARIS AYIOMAMITIS Associated Press
ATHENS - A group of modern pagans honored Zeus at a
nearly 2,000-year-old temple in the heart of
Athens on Sunday -- the first known ceremony of its
kind held there since the ancient Greek religion
was outlawed by the Roman empire in the late fourth
century.
Watched by curious onlookers, 20 worshipers
gathered next to the ruins of the temple for a
celebration organized by Ellinais, a year-old
Athens-based group that is campaigning to revive
old religious practices from the era when Greece
was a fount of education and philosophy.
The group ignored a ban by the Culture Ministry,
which declared the site off limits to organized
activity to protect the monument. But participants
did not try to enter the temple itself, which is
closed to everyone, and no officials sought to stop
the ceremony.
Dressed in ancient costumes, worshipers standing
near the temple's imposing Corinthian columns
recited hymns calling on the Olympian Zeus, ''King
of the gods and the mover of things,'' to bring
peace to the world.
''Our message is world peace and an ecological way
of life in which everyone has the right to
education,'' said Kostas Stathopoulos, one of three
''high priests'' overseeing the event, which
celebrated the nuptials of Zeus and Hera, the
goddess of love and marriage.
To the Greeks, ecological awareness was
fundamental, Stathopoulos said after a priestess,
with arms raised to the sky, called on Zeus ``to
bring rain to the planet.''
A herald holding a metal staff topped with two
snake heads proclaimed the beginning of the
ceremony before priests in blue and red robes
released two white doves as symbols of peace. A
priest poured wine and incense burned on a tiny
copper tripod while a choir chanted hymns.
''Our hymns stress the brotherhood of man and do
not single out nations,'' priest Giorgos Alexelis
said.
For the organizers, who follow a calendar marking
time from the first Olympiad in 776 B.C., the
ceremony was far more than a simple recreation.
''We are Greeks and we demand from the government
the right to use our temples,'' high priestess
Doreta Peppa said.
Ellinais was founded last year and has 34 official
members, mainly academics, lawyers and other
professionals. It won a court battle for state
recognition of the ancient Greek religion and is
demanding the government register its offices as a
place of worship, a move that could allow the group
to perform weddings and other rites.
Christianity rose to prominence in Greece in the
fourth century after Roman Emperor Constantine's
conversion. Emperor Theodosius wiped out the last
vestige of the Olympian gods when he abolished the
Olympic Games in A.D. 394. Several pockets of pagan
worship lingered as late as the 9th century.
''The Christians shut down our schools and
destroyed our temples,'' said Yiannis Panagidis, a
36-year-old accountant at the ceremony.
Most Greeks are baptized Orthodox Christians, and
the church rejects ancient religious practices as
pagan.
''We do not believe in dogmas and decrees, as the
other religions do. We believe in freedom of
thought,'' Stathopoulos said.
- - -
"This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased;
Turin
I have such sites to show you...
------------------------
http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/ ♂
------------------------
"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth
with, deleteth, or maketh a lie about these words
or causeth them to not be known shall burn in hell
forever and ever...."
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Stuthehistoryguy
2007-02-23 19:43:03 UTC
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Tangiental note: a movement similar to this is dramatized in the
vastly underrated film "Isle of the Dead". Highly recommended.
Anonymous
2007-01-26 14:28:41 UTC
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Post by Turin
I agree
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Only your readership, your family, relatives, friends,
associates, allies, enemies, and most importantly God,
can know the veracity of such a "gratuitous" assertion,
one which the facts in evidence do not readily support:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Turin+%***@gmail.com%3E&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=26&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2007&safe=off

"Do what thou wilt" (Leviticus 5:17). Good luck with that.
Perhaps the Show Me State asked the question more clearly?

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
Midjis
2007-01-26 09:42:10 UTC
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Post by Anonymous
_All_ men are Created equal. Period. To believe otherwise is,
frankly, un-American, un-Godly, and is blasphemy against the
Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost
It's been a long time since I've heard anyone call someone 'un-American' in
earnest.
Avoid normal situations.
2007-03-20 06:01:05 UTC
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In alt.mythology Anonymous <***@4096.net> wrote:

[..]
Post by Anonymous
_All_ men are Created equal. Period. To believe otherwise is,
frankly, un-American, un-Godly, and is blasphemy against the
Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: the latter of whom does
*not* forgive, but requires every indebtedness to be paid in
full, whether you and those of your bigoted & intolerant ilk
"agree" with God's infinite, eternal & univeral word, or not.
"All men are created unequal." -- Lazarus Long, Robert A. Heinlein's
_Time Enough for Love_

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"Oh those military meals! Breakfast could be recognised by shape, sausage,
yes, but lunch! The white watery mound could be spuds, but what was the heap
of steaming green and black, and that knoll of boiled grey stuff that
shuddered if it saw you. Visits from orderly officers did little to help.
Officer: Any complaints?
Soldier: Yes sir, it's this.
Officer: What's wrong with 'this'.
Soldier: Nothing wrong but what is it?"
-- Spike Milligan, _Adolf Hitler: My Part in His Downfall_

Mhitsos**48
2007-01-26 15:41:12 UTC
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Post by Turin
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/16515483.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_world
Posted on Mon, Jan. 22, 2007
Ancient Greek religion is resurrected
< snip >
Post by Turin
''We do not believe in dogmas and decrees, as the other
religions do. We believe in freedom of thought,''
Stathopoulos said.
Sounds good enough to me.
Mhitsos**48
2007-01-27 11:51:39 UTC
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Turin wrote:

Turin wrote:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/16515483.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_world
Post by Turin
Posted on Mon, Jan. 22, 2007
Ancient Greek religion is resurrected
< snip >
Post by Turin
''We do not believe in dogmas and decrees, as the other
religions do. We believe in freedom of thought,''
Stathopoulos said.
Sounds good enough to me.
Because of illegal canceling I had to post this again.
Beware of the fascist kemalist Turks.
Keep fascist muslims out of Europe!
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