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Bill
2006-01-22 19:43:50 UTC
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If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.

Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.

This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-22 19:54:05 UTC
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The all-powerful creator could announce who he really is in a heartbeat,
interesting that he never chooses to do this, isn't it?
The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-22 20:57:30 UTC
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Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
The all-powerful creator could announce who he really is in a heartbeat,
interesting that he never chooses to do this, isn't it?
Oh yes I have. You just refuse to believe who I am even though the evidence
is staring you in the face.
Uncle Buck
2006-01-22 21:12:20 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:57:30 -0000, "The Lord Jesus Christ"
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
The all-powerful creator could announce who he really is in a heartbeat,
interesting that he never chooses to do this, isn't it?
Oh yes I have. You just refuse to believe who I am even though the evidence
is staring you in the face.
Gee, for an omnipotent god, your standards for "evidence" to be considered as
"staring you in the face" are really rather pathetic. The few photons that are
emitted from the reader's monitor that encode the pattern decrypted by their
brain into the words you have written - well, if that's all you can do, you
might just as well leap into the lake of fire right now, my omnimpotent friend,
because all of your creation has been deceived as to the scope of your power.
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The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-22 22:54:46 UTC
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Post by Uncle Buck
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:57:30 -0000, "The Lord Jesus Christ"
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
The all-powerful creator could announce who he really is in a heartbeat,
interesting that he never chooses to do this, isn't it?
Oh yes I have. You just refuse to believe who I am even though the evidence
is staring you in the face.
Gee, for an omnipotent god, your standards for "evidence" to be considered as
"staring you in the face" are really rather pathetic. The few photons that are
emitted from the reader's monitor that encode the pattern decrypted by their
brain into the words you have written - well, if that's all you can do, you
might just as well leap into the lake of fire right now, my omnimpotent friend,
because all of your creation has been deceived as to the scope of your power.
--
Fair comment. My standards of evidence are precisely EQUAL to the evidence
that the original bible was written by the hand of God. ZERO.
Lion Of Judah
2006-01-22 20:21:22 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Ok, I'll do it. It's me. I'm God. And I have only three commandments.

1. Buy this book:

http://snipurl.com/lty2

2. Believe it.

and

3. If you don't have the money, you're shit outta luck.
Carl Rooker
2006-01-23 16:38:57 UTC
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Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Ok, I'll do it. It's me. I'm God. And I have only three commandments.
http://snipurl.com/lty2
2. Believe it.
and
3. If you don't have the money, you're shit outta luck.
Which is why I perfer His way to yours.

1. Trust Him.
2. Receive His free gift of salvation.
3. In response to His love, do good to others.

God Bless
Carl
Lion Of Judah
2006-01-23 16:50:32 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator
of
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Ok, I'll do it. It's me. I'm God. And I have only three commandments.
http://snipurl.com/lty2
2. Believe it.
and
3. If you don't have the money, you're shit outta luck.
Which is why I perfer His way to yours.
1. Trust Him.
No difference,. trust me.
Post by Carl Rooker
2. Receive His free gift of salvation.
No difference, what the book also teaches.
Post by Carl Rooker
3. In response to His love, do good to others.
No difference, what the book also teaches.

The difference is that the book isn't full of unreasonable and
unquestionable garbage that people must take on faith only. It's a precise,
reasonable and logical examination and explanation of what exactly was
accomplished by Christ and his Father, the All-Wise Buddha, for the sakes of
all those who would come to believe in him and his Father.

It doesn't preach your sins are washed away by his blood. Because he clearly
warns, "Not everyone that says to me Lord, Lord will be saved, but who
*does* the will of my Father in heaven."
Post by Carl Rooker
God Bless
Carl
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-24 00:03:02 UTC
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Which is why I perfer His way to yours.

1. Trust Him.(even when he says MURDER your only son????)
2. Receive His free gift of salvation.(unless of course you use your FREE
WILL)
3. In response to His love, do good to others. (yea, don;t MURDER their
only son, thats okay for the christian god to do it, but not anyone else).
Uncle Vic
2006-01-24 05:19:18 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
2. Receive His free gift of salvation.
If it's free, why do churches get tax exemption?
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thomas p
2006-01-24 08:55:47 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator
of
Post by Lion Of Judah
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Ok, I'll do it. It's me. I'm God. And I have only three commandments.
http://snipurl.com/lty2
2. Believe it.
and
3. If you don't have the money, you're shit outta luck.
Which is why I perfer His way to yours.
I prefer Santa Claus' ways to yours.
Post by Carl Rooker
1. Trust Him.
There would have to be reason to believe he existed first.
Post by Carl Rooker
2. Receive His free gift of salvation.
See above.
Post by Carl Rooker
3. In response to His love, do good to others.
See above. Why not love others and do good anyway?






Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-22 20:31:36 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.

God already did that.

2,000 years ago.

People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.

Ike
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Therion Ware
2006-01-22 20:49:05 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600 in alt.atheism, H.E. Eickleberry,
Jr. ("H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <***@comcast.net>) said,
directing the reply to alt.atheism
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message terribly
credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it was
received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to miss
little details....
Carl Rooker
2006-01-23 16:40:52 UTC
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Post by Therion Ware
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600 in alt.atheism, H.E. Eickleberry,
directing the reply to alt.atheism
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message terribly
credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it was
received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to miss
little details....
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they will
not listen now. They chose to not listen.

But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God, that
turns into everlasting life.

God Bless
Carl
Therion Ware
2006-01-23 18:45:26 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:40:52 -0500 in alt.atheism, Carl Rooker ("Carl
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Therion Ware
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600 in alt.atheism, H.E. Eickleberry,
directing the reply to alt.atheism
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator
of
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message terribly
credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it was
received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to miss
little details....
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they will
not listen now. They chose to not listen.
Well, as far as I see it, I've listened, but find the message wanting
in as much as IMO the claims aren't supported by the evidence.
Post by Carl Rooker
But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God, that
turns into everlasting life.
Well, so you - and others - say, but given the nature of the claims
I'm inclined to want rather more in the way of evidence than has been
so far presented.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-24 00:05:41 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they will
not listen now. They chose to not listen.
But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God, that
turns into everlasting life.
yea, but when the supreme, loving, caring being tells you to MURDER your
only son, well, you can only do that so many times
Uncle Vic
2006-01-24 05:10:46 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Carl Rooker
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Therion Ware
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message
terribly credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it
was received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to
miss little details....
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they
will not listen now. They chose to not listen.
Why would someone choose not to listen when someone makes an offer like
your god does in the NT? Credibility, that's why. That's something the
bible and those who teach it sorely lack.
Post by Carl Rooker
But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God,
that turns into everlasting life.
Hearsay.
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The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-24 07:53:34 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Therion Ware
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600 in alt.atheism, H.E. Eickleberry,
directing the reply to alt.atheism
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator
of
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message terribly
credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it was
received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to miss
little details....
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they will
not listen now. They chose to not listen.
Many people, including so-called Christians still do not listen to me now.
The chances of my posts being typed by the hand of God are EQUAL to the
bible being written by the hand of God so why do you believe the bible but
not me ??
Post by Carl Rooker
But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God, that
turns into everlasting life.
I want that relationship but, as you say, people do not listen to me and
think I'm a troll.
Post by Carl Rooker
God Bless
I ALWAYS try to bless.
thomas p
2006-01-24 08:55:48 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Therion Ware
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600 in alt.atheism, H.E. Eickleberry,
directing the reply to alt.atheism
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator
of
Post by Therion Ware
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
That's probably because he apparently didn't make the message terribly
credible, or independent of the time and culture in which it was
received. Still, I suppose when you're omniscient it's easy to miss
little details....
No, many people did not listen to Him then, for the very reasons they will
not listen now. They chose to not listen.
Nonsense. They only hear people telling them what Jesus said.
Post by Carl Rooker
But, for those who do, there is a living relationship with this God, that
turns into everlasting life.
Prove it.


Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-22 20:56:55 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
would you listen to a being that told you to MURDER your only son?
Dale
2006-01-22 21:25:07 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
Evidence?
Carl Rooker
2006-01-23 16:43:31 UTC
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Post by Dale
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator
Post by Dale
of
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
Evidence?
The historical facts of the person of Jesus Christ, who made such an impact
that even His enimies acknowleged His existence and actions. They just gave
a different explanation.

An empty tomb. Sure, today we are not sure which one it was, but back then
everyone knew which one it was. That is why the story of how the deciples
stole the body.

A living relationship between God and individuals that is free to all who
would receive it.

God Bless
Carl
David Jensen
2006-01-23 19:32:00 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:43:31 -0500, in alt.atheism
Post by Bill
Post by Dale
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his
Post by Dale
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator
Post by Dale
of
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
Evidence?
The historical facts of the person of Jesus Christ, who made such an impact
that even His enimies acknowleged His existence and actions. They just gave
a different explanation.
Really? Which enemies said that Jesus existed and was the Son of God.
There were many, many religious teachers at the time, but the fact that
one might have been named what we now call Jesus is not evidence that
the God-oriented claims are valid.
Post by Bill
An empty tomb. Sure, today we are not sure which one it was, but back then
everyone knew which one it was. That is why the story of how the deciples
stole the body.
Except that this is a self-serving story found in the gospels, not an
independent story found outside of Christian writings. There is no
evidence for Jesus's resurrection.
Post by Bill
A living relationship between God and individuals that is free to all who
would receive it.
An untestable and unprovable claim.
thomas p
2006-01-24 08:55:50 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by Dale
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his
Post by Dale
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator
Post by Dale
of
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
Evidence?
The historical facts of the person of Jesus Christ,
Nope, it is not an historical fact.

who made such an impact
Post by Bill
that even His enimies acknowleged His existence and actions. They just gave
a different explanation.
No contemporary writings at all outside the Bible.
Post by Bill
An empty tomb. Sure, today we are not sure which one it was, but back then
everyone knew which one it was. That is why the story of how the deciples
stole the body.
The only place those stories exist is in the Bible.
Post by Bill
A living relationship between God and individuals that is free to all who
would receive it.
It has to be offered first not talked about by others.

Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
Uncle Vic
2006-01-22 21:27:45 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
He also lied about when he was coming back to establish the kingdom.
--
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Kate
2006-01-22 21:34:03 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
There was an internet 2,000 years ago?

Or was it a bunch of stories told by men with no verification or
evidence left behind and looking exactly like every other bunch of
stories told by some men that conviently made them very powerful?

You are truly naive dear.
Martin Willett
2006-01-22 22:28:58 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
There have been many many different people claiming at different times
to be a god or the god or god's messenger or god's son. Why do you only
believe one of them?

If you were alive at the time with your tendency to believe what you
have been told to believe about long ago far off revelations (who ever
thought they lived in "Biblical times"?)and to dismiss anything in the
here and now as charlatanry you would have rejected Jesus. You know it.
And you would have been right, for the wrong reasons.

You only believe in Jesus because some people beat the crap out of your
ancestors told them they had to believe in Jesus and nobody has beaten
them since and told to believe anything different. You don't honestly
think that fact is just a coincidence do you? You have had the
scriptures of a foreign tribe dumped upon you and had your own
ancestor's myths ridiculed and dismissed as, well, ancient tribal myths,
and you have been told to believe foreign ancient tribal myths instead,
as if they were literally true. And, this is the killer, you actually
think you're smarter and more moral to believe that stuff, and the less
you question it the better a person you think you are.

I have a very extensive vocabulary but I lack the appropriate words to
convey my utter contempt for your fatuous religion and the way it has
spread. But I try.
--
Martin Willett


http://mwillett.org
The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-23 00:09:43 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
There have been many many different people claiming at different times to
be a god or the god or god's messenger or god's son. Why do you only
believe one of them?
If you were alive at the time with your tendency to believe what you have
been told to believe about long ago far off revelations (who ever thought
they lived in "Biblical times"?)and to dismiss anything in the here and
now as charlatanry you would have rejected Jesus. You know it. And you
would have been right, for the wrong reasons.
You only believe in Jesus because some people beat the crap out of your
ancestors told them they had to believe in Jesus and nobody has beaten
them since and told to believe anything different. You don't honestly
think that fact is just a coincidence do you? You have had the scriptures
of a foreign tribe dumped upon you and had your own ancestor's myths
ridiculed and dismissed as, well, ancient tribal myths, and you have been
told to believe foreign ancient tribal myths instead, as if they were
literally true. And, this is the killer, you actually think you're smarter
and more moral to believe that stuff, and the less you question it the
better a person you think you are.
I have a very extensive vocabulary but I lack the appropriate words to
convey my utter contempt for your fatuous religion and the way it has
spread. But I try.
--
Good post. There is as much chance of my posts being typed by the hand of
God as there is of the bible being written by the hand of God. Exactly
ZERO.

God
MarkA
2006-01-23 01:46:10 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass get
crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not being
convinced.
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-23 02:32:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass get
crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not being
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals" WAS
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering all the
injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His heart to have
compassion on us.

So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
MarkA
2006-01-23 12:31:18 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass
get crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not being
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals" WAS
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering all
the injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His heart to
have compassion on us.
So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
The question remains, how does JC getting crucified distinguish him from
all the other ordinary criminals who were getting crucified that day?
Twelve people thought he was the Messiah, everyone else thought he was
just another Messiah wannabe. It doesn't take any miraculous power to get
executed, does it?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-23 12:49:39 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass
get crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not being
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals" WAS
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering all
the injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His heart to
have compassion on us.
So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
The question remains, how does JC getting crucified distinguish him from
all the other ordinary criminals who were getting crucified that day?
Twelve people thought he was the Messiah, everyone else thought he was
just another Messiah wannabe. It doesn't take any miraculous power to get
executed, does it?
--
jesus was just the ernest angley, or benny hinn of the day
Carl Rooker
2006-01-23 16:46:15 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass
get crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not being
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals" WAS
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering all
the injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His heart to
have compassion on us.
So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
The question remains, how does JC getting crucified distinguish him from
all the other ordinary criminals who were getting crucified that day?
Twelve people thought he was the Messiah, everyone else thought he was
just another Messiah wannabe. It doesn't take any miraculous power to get
executed, does it?
No, it does not.

However, you know perfectly well that His death was not the end of the
story. The Resurection is what destinguishes Him from the others.

The empty tomb, that all could visit at that time is the physical evidence.
The silly excuses that some have come up with to deny reason for the empty
tomb ("They stole the Body.") is good evidence that the tomb was actually
empty.

God Bless
Carl
David Jensen
2006-01-23 19:45:53 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:46:15 -0500, in alt.atheism
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass
get crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not
being
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals"
WAS
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering all
the injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His heart to
have compassion on us.
So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
The question remains, how does JC getting crucified distinguish him from
all the other ordinary criminals who were getting crucified that day?
Twelve people thought he was the Messiah, everyone else thought he was
just another Messiah wannabe. It doesn't take any miraculous power to get
executed, does it?
No, it does not.
However, you know perfectly well that His death was not the end of the
story. The Resurection is what destinguishes Him from the others.
The empty tomb, that all could visit at that time is the physical evidence.
The silly excuses that some have come up with to deny reason for the empty
tomb ("They stole the Body.") is good evidence that the tomb was actually
empty.
What evidence is there that any of this happened?
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-24 00:08:56 UTC
Permalink
when jesus was healing those people, did he ever bash them on the forehead
and yell.....

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL ??
MarkA
2006-01-24 01:47:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and
follow his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step
he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god
and what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple
for the creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands
of different god beliefs.
That's dumb.
God already did that.
2,000 years ago.
People didn't listen to Him then anymore than you do now.
Ike
That's a pretty fucking lame god if the best he can do is let his ass
get crucified, along with the common criminals. Pardon me for not
being
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by MarkA
convinced.
Fool. God "getting His ass crucified along with the common criminals"
WAS
Post by MarkA
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
the "best" He could, and what a marvelous work it was, God suffering
all the injustices we could hurl at Him and still finding it in His
heart to have compassion on us.
So, then, its a pretty lame "man" who wouldn't be convinced.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
The question remains, how does JC getting crucified distinguish him from
all the other ordinary criminals who were getting crucified that day?
Twelve people thought he was the Messiah, everyone else thought he was
just another Messiah wannabe. It doesn't take any miraculous power to
get executed, does it?
No, it does not.
However, you know perfectly well that His death was not the end of the
story. The Resurection is what destinguishes Him from the others.
The empty tomb, that all could visit at that time is the physical
evidence. The silly excuses that some have come up with to deny reason for
the empty tomb ("They stole the Body.") is good evidence that the tomb was
actually empty.
God Bless
Carl
Yes, the empty tomb. It was so spectacularly impressive that Christianity
teetered on the brink of extinction for another 100 years before it
started gaining followers.

So where is JC's body now? Somewhere beyond the orbit of Pluto? Perhaps
lurking in the asteroid belt? Do you believe that at the Final Judgement,
all the bodies of everyone who has ever died will magically be
reconstituted, and float up to Heaven (or sink to Hell)? What if some of
the molecules that make up my body were, at one time in the past, also
part of someone elses' body? Do we have to share?

Are you familiar with the concept of a 'myth'?
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-24 16:43:40 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
No, it does not.
However, you know perfectly well that His death was not the end of the
story. The Resurection is what destinguishes Him from the others.
The empty tomb, that all could visit at that time is the physical evidence.
The silly excuses that some have come up with to deny reason for the empty
tomb ("They stole the Body.") is good evidence that the tomb was actually
empty.
God Bless
Carl
Carl,

I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as the
crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but I was
not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious. I was
revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong enough to
walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but hey, I was
lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I lived until I
was 73 years old.

Lots of Love,

The Lord Jesus
d***@yahoo.com
2006-01-24 21:30:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Post by Carl Rooker
No, it does not.
However, you know perfectly well that His death was not the end of the
story. The Resurection is what destinguishes Him from the others.
The empty tomb, that all could visit at that time is the physical evidence.
The silly excuses that some have come up with to deny reason for the empty
tomb ("They stole the Body.") is good evidence that the tomb was actually
empty.
God Bless
Carl
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as the
crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but I was
not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious. I was
revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong enough to
walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but hey, I was
lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I lived until I
was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
lol

Hey, want some M&Ms?

Oh right, the hole in the hand thing..sorry.
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-25 03:23:28 UTC
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"The Lord Jesus Christ" <***@jesuschrist.com> wrote in message news:***@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...

[snip]
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as
the crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but
I was not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious. I
was revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong
enough to walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but
hey, I was lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I
lived until I was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many...

Ike
--
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"The Character Map: An Introduction to the Introductions in Revelation" is
now available in hardcover, softcover, and ebook editions.

For a synopsis, author bio, an explanation of the real "code" in Revelation,
an excerpt, and links to major sales sites, visit

www.eickleberrybooks.com

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Uncle Vic
2006-01-25 04:21:47 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
[snip]
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful
as the crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the
hands) but I was not dead when they took me down from the cross, just
unconscious. I was revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days
later was strong enough to walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it
when he saw me but hey, I was lucky to be alive. Shortly after this
I moved to Rome where I lived until I was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many...
How do *you* know which one is the right one? I have it on good
authority that it was SATAN that wrote the NT. Maybe you dumb Christians
are all going to burn in HEAVEN!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The Lord Jesus Christ
2006-01-25 07:58:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
[snip]
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as
the crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but
I was not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious.
I was revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong
enough to walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but
hey, I was lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I
lived until I was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many...
So if you doubt who I am now, then you will still doubt me when I guide your
soul away from this Earth. And because you doubt me, you cannot get eternal
life but must perish in the lake of fire.

Lots of Love,

The Lord Jesus
thomas p
2006-01-25 19:22:57 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:23:28 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
[snip]
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as
the crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but
I was not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious. I
was revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong
enough to walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but
hey, I was lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I
lived until I was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many...
Total lack of a sense of humor.

Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-25 20:14:53 UTC
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Post by thomas p
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:23:28 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
[snip]
Post by The Lord Jesus Christ
Carl,
I appreciate your dedication to me but I'll give you a clue. Painful as
the crucifixion was (I still have pain and inflammation in the hands) but
I was not dead when they took me down from the cross, just unconscious.
I
was revived in the cave by Mary Magdalene and 3 days later was strong
enough to walk. Disciple Thomas did not believe it when he saw me but
hey, I was lucky to be alive. Shortly after this I moved to Rome where I
lived until I was 73 years old.
Lots of Love,
The Lord Jesus
Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many...
Total lack of a sense of humor.
I have a great sense of humor. It just wasn't funny.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
Temorary
2006-01-22 21:13:21 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow
his wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can
take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and
what he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the
creator of the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Alright already! It's me! I am your fucking God! Now piss off. I'm
trying to take a nap.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-22 21:27:28 UTC
Permalink
you can't be the "loving, caring" christian god, you didn't tell anyone to
MURDER their only son
erikc
2006-01-23 04:21:20 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
All he would have to do is announce his existance, simultaneously, to every
person on earth wherever they might be, in thier own native language. At
least three times to be on the safe side.


Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
The Believer
2006-01-23 05:39:27 UTC
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To all concerned,

It seems most of you want the answer, but the answer will only be
provided to those who are not blind. There is a select few who this
applies to. I'm sorry, but the majority of you are blind and will
never know God.

If you think you are one of the few, www.veridican.com beholds the
answers about God, and what he expects.
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-23 05:57:27 UTC
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Post by The Believer
To all concerned,
It seems most of you want the answer, but the answer will only be
provided to those who are not blind. There is a select few who this
applies to. I'm sorry, but the majority of you are blind and will
never know God.
If you think you are one of the few, www.veridican.com beholds the
answers about God, and what he expects.
LOL

Apparently, Marcion's heresies are still alive and well and finding their
way to a cult near you.

Yo, nutcase: "God is Love" and "The Lord is a Man of War" are both true
statements, God being both creator and destroyer as the situation warrants.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2006-01-23 12:50:15 UTC
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Post by The Believer
It seems most of you want the answer, but the answer will only be
provided to those who are not blind. There is a select few who this
applies to. I'm sorry, but the majority of you are blind and will
never know God.
why would I want to know a mass murderer ?
Legion
2006-01-23 16:10:04 UTC
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Post by The Believer
To all concerned,
It seems most of you want the answer, but the answer will only be
provided to those who are not blind. There is a select few who this
applies to. I'm sorry, but the majority of you are blind and will
never know God.
If you think you are one of the few, www.veridican.com beholds the
answers about God, and what he expects.
So let me get this straight, if I don't believe in god it's because I am
'blind'. So only those who already believe can see him/her/it?

So you don't believe in Religious conversion then??
--
Legion
-------
"Each man is a spark in the darkness,
by the time he is noticed he is gone.
A faded retinal after-image,
obscured by newer brighter lights". - Liber Humanus
Bill
2006-01-24 21:14:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Believer
To all concerned,
It seems most of you want the answer, but the answer will only be
provided to those who are not blind. There is a select few who this
applies to. I'm sorry, but the majority of you are blind and will
never know God.
If you think you are one of the few, www.veridican.com beholds the
answers about God, and what he expects.
Tell me, why did your god "make most of us blind"? This doesn't sound like
any loving caring god to me!
Carl Rooker
2006-01-23 16:37:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Simply because He has already influenced far more people without the use of
our slow and ineficient internet. His way worked much better.

Just because He does things in a way you do not approve of only proves that
you are not a very good standard of effectiveness.

God Bless
Carl
Kate
2006-01-23 19:46:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Simply because He has already influenced far more people without the use of
our slow and ineficient internet. His way worked much better.
Just because He does things in a way you do not approve of only proves that
you are not a very good standard of effectiveness.
God Bless
Carl
No evidence of anything like that. Just evidence of a lot of men
saying that there was a god behind them (and each had a different
story about a different god).

Obviously you bought their story.
David Jensen
2006-01-23 20:00:40 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:37:37 -0500, in alt.atheism
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Simply because He has already influenced far more people without the use of
our slow and ineficient internet. His way worked much better.
Really? Most people in the world don't accept the religion you accept,
but God did a good job of it. I am confused.
Post by Carl Rooker
Just because He does things in a way you do not approve of only proves that
you are not a very good standard of effectiveness.
God Bless
Carl
thomas p
2006-01-24 08:55:51 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
Simply because He has already influenced far more people without the use of
our slow and ineficient internet. His way worked much better.
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
Post by Carl Rooker
Just because He does things in a way you do not approve of only proves that
you are not a very good standard of effectiveness.
It makes no difference if one approves or not. There is no evidence
that he did any of it.




Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-24 15:00:09 UTC
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Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.

Ike
Christopher A. Lee
2006-01-24 15:14:22 UTC
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
He has no assumptions at all about it. You assume it exists in the
total absence of evidence and stupidly, rudely talk at him as though
it were universally granted.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Ike
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-25 03:17:27 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
He has no assumptions at all about it. You assume it exists in the
total absence of evidence and stupidly, rudely talk at him as though
it were universally granted.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Ike
It may not be universally granted, but it's universally true.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
Uncle Vic
2006-01-25 04:23:53 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
He has no assumptions at all about it. You assume it exists in the
total absence of evidence and stupidly, rudely talk at him as though
it were universally granted.
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Ike
It may not be universally granted, but it's universally true.
How do you know?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
thomas p
2006-01-25 19:22:58 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?



Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-25 20:16:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
OK, I'll say it a different way:

"Many are called; few are chosen."

Still comes out the same way.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
Fiona Roberts
2006-01-25 22:51:17 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Chosen for what exactly? To spend eternity worshipping, singing hymns,
praying to your invisible sky buddy? Sounds more like a nightmare to me.
Think I'll stick with atheism and opt for the lake of fire. LOL.
thomas p
2006-01-26 19:44:10 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:07 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.

Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
2006-01-26 20:01:15 UTC
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Post by thomas p
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:07 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.
Nope. It's all part of the process of finding and developing the saints.

Ike

www.eickleberrybooks.com
Pastor Frank
2006-01-27 00:05:01 UTC
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Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:07 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.
Nope. It's all part of the process of finding and developing the saints.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
Atheists aren't interested in that, their only interest is "failures", a
list of which they collect assiduously. And they don't like us to contradict
them, as this may result in the loss of a "failure' on their cherished list.
LOL
Paul David
2006-01-27 19:17:17 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.
Nope. It's all part of the process of finding and developing the saints.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
Atheists aren't interested in that, their only interest is "failures",
a list of which they collect assiduously. And they don't like us to
contradict them, as this may result in the loss of a "failure' on their
cherished list. LOL
Well if Christianity was a religion that made sense and didn't have failings
it wouldn't be so much fun and easy for atheists to knock it down.

Your religious beliefs are ludicrous - you are believing in invisible sky
fairies and myths. Think about it :-)
thomas p
2006-01-27 18:08:29 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:01:15 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:07 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.
Nope. It's all part of the process of finding and developing the saints.
Apparently Christianity invented spin-doctoring.

Thomas P.

"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"

(Kierkegaard)

C***@bigsecret.com
2006-01-27 00:30:29 UTC
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Post by thomas p
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:16:07 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:00:09 -0600, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Post by H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
Post by thomas p
Its been 2000 years now. There is no evidence for any of it. The
majority of the world is not Christian. You call that efficient?
You assume God is interested in quantity rather than quality.
No, I do not assume anything. I know that Christian doctrine says
that nobody is deserving and that god does not want anyone to
"perish". You seem more interested in scoring personal points than in
actually representing Christian doctrine; did somebody mention
"pride"?
"Many are called; few are chosen."
Still comes out the same way.
Yes, the failure of Christianity.
No, the failure of mind controlers and not Christianity.
Post by thomas p
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
Pastor Frank
2006-01-24 00:45:12 UTC
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Post by Bill
If there is a real god and if he wants people to know him and follow his
wishes and commands there is a very simple and easy step he can take.
Why does he not announce here on the internet who is the REAL god and what
he expects from us. This should be very easy and simple for the creator of
the Universe and everything in it.
This certainly would clear up the confusion of all these thousands of
different god beliefs.
What? And rob you of your free choice? God doesn't want obsequious
sycophants but loving and caring sons.
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