Discussion:
WHERE IS THE REAL GOD?
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Bill M
2006-11-03 20:47:27 UTC
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There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.



If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not

announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?



We're waiting!
David
2006-11-03 21:26:27 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible

God bless,
David
Lucifer
2006-11-03 23:02:47 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
He has a split personality?

--

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General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Post by David
God bless,
David
Uncle Vic
2006-11-04 04:13:41 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet David
Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
Shit! <Vic turns into a pillar of salt>
Post by David
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
And all the other gods are in their respective holy books, too. They
never seem to come out, though.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-04 12:30:02 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet David
Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
Shit! <Vic turns into a pillar of salt>
Post by David
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
And all the other gods are in their respective holy books, too. They
never seem to come out, though.
THINKS " I wonder if this could just be a man made thing"?

Major sacred texts and documents;

Baha'i Sacrid writings

Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon

The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.

No originals of the old or new testaments exist.

The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints

The Analects - Confuscianism

The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs

Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome over the centuries

Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism

Qur'an - Islam

Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs

The Tanakh - Jewism

Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism

Nag Hammadi - Gnostics

Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Post by Uncle Vic
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-04 12:25:03 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
groan - the bible 'a book written by humans for humans',
not a god in sight.

Grow up
Post by David
God bless,
David
Pastor Frank
2006-11-04 19:46:52 UTC
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Post by Bill M
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
God bless,
David
"Beside you" may be too far. Meister Eckhart used to say: God is closer
to you, than you are to yourself. He got that understanding from the below

Pastor Frank

Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
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Mistylien
2006-11-06 06:52:30 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
God bless,
David
"Beside you" may be too far. Meister Eckhart used to say: God is closer
to you, than you are to yourself. He got that understanding from the below
Pastor Frank
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
--
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Yes well said.

M,
bob young
2006-11-06 12:43:07 UTC
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Post by Mistylien
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
God bless,
David
"Beside you" may be too far. Meister Eckhart used to say: God is closer
to you, than you are to yourself. He got that understanding from the below
Pastor Frank
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Yes well said.
M,
too bad your god never 'says ANYTHING !"
Rowland Croucher
2006-11-06 22:54:43 UTC
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Post by bob young
too bad your god never 'says ANYTHING !"
He tells us all about your "private life." Married are you? To both of
them (Sunday, 5 November 0100)?

About your tithing obligations . . .?
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bob young
2006-11-08 06:42:04 UTC
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Post by Rowland Croucher
Post by bob young
too bad your god never 'says ANYTHING !"
He tells us all about your "private life." Married are you? To both of
them (Sunday, 5 November 0100)?
About your tithing obligations . . .?
Gibberish, care to elucidate, if you can !
Post by Rowland Croucher
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http://broomleigh.org/
Mistylien
2006-11-07 01:38:36 UTC
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snip<
Post by bob young
Post by Mistylien
Yes well said.
M,
too bad your god never 'says ANYTHING !"
Have you Read His two witnesses testimony?

God Speaks to his Creation through created beings.

See The Bible,
Both Old Testament, and the New Testament.
God speaks plenty there.
All of Creation is his message board.

M,
bob young
2006-11-08 06:43:01 UTC
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Post by Mistylien
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Post by bob young
Post by Mistylien
Yes well said.
M,
too bad your god never 'says ANYTHING !"
Have you Read His two witnesses testimony?
God Speaks to his Creation through created beings.
ROFL [very loudly]

ever heard of the 'the chicken and the egg' question?

do you people EVER think ?
Post by Mistylien
See The Bible,
Both Old Testament, and the New Testament.
God speaks plenty there.
All of Creation is his message board.
M,
Rowland Croucher
2006-11-11 19:56:18 UTC
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Post by bob young
ever heard of the 'the chicken and the egg' question?
Yes.
Post by bob young
do you people EVER think ?
Christian insight tells us the reason the chicken crossed the school
playground, was to get to the other slide.
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Robibnikoff
2006-11-06 19:27:55 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
Really? Prove it.
Post by David
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
Prove that the bible is true.

Thanks!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
bob young
2006-11-07 05:25:02 UTC
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Post by Robibnikoff
Post by David
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
"Seek and ye shall find" - don't just stand there!
Actually he is right beside you, so you won't have to look far
Really? Prove it.
Post by David
As for God telling us who he is - he's done it - it's all in the Bible
Prove that the bible is true.
He can't
and it is all he's got.

Bob

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of
magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the
price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent
enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]

You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons,
sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on
water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say
that we are the ones that need help?
[with acknowledgements to Jon Stol]

"The most ridiculous concept ever perpetrated by Homo Sapiens is that the Lord
God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of the Universes, wants the saccharine
adoration of his creations, that he can be persuaded by their prayers, and
becomes petulant if he does not receive this flattery. Yet this ridiculous
notion, without one real shred of evidence to bolster it, has gone on to found
one of the oldest, largest and least productive industries in history."
[Robert Heinlein]
Post by Robibnikoff
Thanks!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Pies de Arcilla
2006-11-04 01:53:07 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What next?
Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Uncle Vic
2006-11-04 04:19:15 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Pies de Arcilla
2006-11-04 20:00:54 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Uncle Vic
2006-11-04 20:38:55 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything
in it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God
to do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Are you kidding? Making it through in rush hour would be a miracle.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Pies de Arcilla
2006-11-04 21:46:13 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything
in it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God
to do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Are you kidding? Making it through in rush hour would be a miracle.
If you really started seeing amazingly improbable things, you could
either dismiss them as "just coincidences" or start believing in
miracles and therefore God as a result. In the latter case, you might
well be diagnosed as suffering from a psychotic disorder. So if God
does exist, and is merciful, he knows that you really don't want to be
considered mentally deranged, and presumably that's why He doesn't
cause you to experience miracles. It appears God would rather you be
alienated and ignorant of Him than suffer the stigma of mental illness.
Uncle Vic
2006-11-04 22:34:26 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions
of people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Are you kidding? Making it through in rush hour would be a miracle.
If you really started seeing amazingly improbable things, you could
either dismiss them as "just coincidences" or start believing in
miracles and therefore God as a result. In the latter case, you might
well be diagnosed as suffering from a psychotic disorder. So if God
does exist, and is merciful, he knows that you really don't want to be
considered mentally deranged, and presumably that's why He doesn't
cause you to experience miracles. It appears God would rather you be
alienated and ignorant of Him than suffer the stigma of mental
illness.
On the other hand, I might have been making fun of you.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Lucifer
2006-11-04 23:21:44 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions
of people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Are you kidding? Making it through in rush hour would be a miracle.
If you really started seeing amazingly improbable things, you could
either dismiss them as "just coincidences" or start believing in
miracles and therefore God as a result. In the latter case, you might
well be diagnosed as suffering from a psychotic disorder. So if God
does exist, and is merciful, he knows that you really don't want to be
considered mentally deranged, and presumably that's why He doesn't
cause you to experience miracles. It appears God would rather you be
alienated and ignorant of Him than suffer the stigma of mental illness.
On the other hand, I might have been making fun of you.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Damn you...despite my attempts, I don't seem to be on there...must try
harder...

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Uncle Vic
2006-11-04 23:29:33 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Lucifer
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Post by Uncle Vic
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Damn you...despite my attempts, I don't seem to be on there...must try
harder...
Watch out, they *pray* for you. <shudder>

I asked EQ how the prayer was going, he said "awesome". He didn't try to
explain why it wasn't doing anything.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Lucifer
2006-11-05 00:13:29 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Lucifer
Post by Lucifer
Post by Uncle Vic
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Damn you...despite my attempts, I don't seem to be on there...must try
harder...
Watch out, they *pray* for you. <shudder>
I asked EQ how the prayer was going, he said "awesome". He didn't try to
explain why it wasn't doing anything.
Tehehehehehehehe

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Post by Uncle Vic
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Lucifer
2006-11-05 00:13:42 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Lucifer
Post by Lucifer
Post by Uncle Vic
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Damn you...despite my attempts, I don't seem to be on there...must try
harder...
Watch out, they *pray* for you. <shudder>
I asked EQ how the prayer was going, he said "awesome". He didn't try to
explain why it wasn't doing anything.
Tehehehehehehehe...

Tell them that while they are down there...

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Post by Uncle Vic
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
2006-11-06 02:14:06 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pies de Arcilla
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything
in it, why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the others are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God
to do?
I'd like to see him split lanes on the 405 on a Harley Electra Glide.
How would you know it was Him?
Are you kidding? Making it through in rush hour would be a miracle.
If you really started seeing amazingly improbable things, you could
either dismiss them as "just coincidences" or start believing in
miracles and therefore God as a result.
Any actual god being would have no difficulty convincing anyone of its'
existence. Even my cat can convince humans that it exists. A god should be
a least as capable as a cat.

Klazmon.
Olrik
2006-11-04 06:15:21 UTC
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Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What next?
Anything simpler? Just a thought...

Olrik
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Pastor Frank
2006-11-04 20:13:04 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What next?
Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to do
as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell for all
eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life. But in the
mean time he will just keep on doing whatever feels good, irrespective of
whether it's sin or virtue. LOL
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Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
2006-11-06 02:10:56 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What next?
Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.

Klazmon.
Pastor Frank
2006-11-07 05:06:14 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you, but
keeps you in being. See below

Pastor Frank

Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
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bob young
2006-11-07 13:08:02 UTC
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Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you,
WRONG Frank; both you and I 'evolved'
imaginary gods have nothing to do with why we are here

The giraffe got a freak neck and we got a freak brain
a brain that is responsible, in the case of some homo sapiens,
for the dreaming up of thousands of imaginary gods
resulting in millions of misguided, frightened, insecure, followers.

Expedit esse deos, et, ut expedit, esse putemus
It is convenient that there be gods, let us believe that there are
[Ovid 34 BC - c.17 AD]
Post by Pastor Frank
but
keeps you in being. See below
Pastor Frank
Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-08 03:30:33 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you,
WRONG Frank; both you and I 'evolved'
imaginary gods have nothing to do with why we are here
I bet you didn't discover that yourself, did you? But you believed
someone, like we believe Jesus. Let's face it Bob, you are as much a
true-believer as we are, only your religion is scientism and your priests
are scientists. They even can sell you on a Piltdown man and you will
automatically lap it all up, without question.
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bob young
2006-11-10 05:18:01 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like
perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you,
WRONG Frank; both you and I 'evolved'
imaginary gods have nothing to do with why we are here
I bet you didn't discover that yourself, did you? But you believed
someone, like we believe Jesus. Let's face it Bob, you are as much a
true-believer as we are, only your religion is scientism and your priests
are scientists. They even can sell you on a Piltdown man and you will
automatically lap it all up, without question.
If you could prove that god of yours and his son
there would no need to get all up tight and nasty would there?

Think about it

Every picture tells a story, so they say.
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-11 01:36:31 UTC
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Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like
perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you
to
do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell
for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then one
would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you,
WRONG Frank; both you and I 'evolved'
imaginary gods have nothing to do with why we are here
I bet you didn't discover that yourself, did you? But you believed
someone, like we believe Jesus. Let's face it Bob, you are as much a
true-believer as we are, only your religion is scientism and your priests
are scientists. They even can sell you on a Piltdown man and you will
automatically lap it all up, without question.
If you could prove that god of yours and his son
there would no need to get all up tight and nasty would there?
Think about it
Every picture tells a story, so they say.
You can't handle simple linguistic expressions like "son of a gun" and
similar. Atheists need to go to great lengths explaining, that guns are
inanimate object which are incapable of having progeny of any sort. One
wonders at which point atheist intelligence levels hit bottom. Maybe there
is no bottom in atheism, only bottoms up.
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Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
2006-11-07 21:33:00 UTC
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Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then
one would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you, but
keeps you in being. See below
If that were the case then at least one would die for a good cause.

Klazmon.
Post by Pastor Frank
Pastor Frank
Acts:17:28: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Pastor Frank
2006-11-09 09:13:14 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Post by Pastor Frank
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
Not necessarily. If the buybull god demonstrated its' existence then
one would be compelled to find a way to destroy the evil creature.
Klazmon.
You might be sorry if you did that, for God not only created you, but
keeps you in being. See below
If that were the case then at least one would die for a good cause.
Klazmon.
You will eventually, rest assured. Yes, even you will get not what you
deserve, but what you want, which is oblivion in death.
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-07 05:02:51 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same reasons
above.
Post by Pastor Frank
But
in the mean time he will just keep on doing whatever feels good,
irrespective of whether it's sin or virtue. LOL
No, Frank, it's what feels *right*.
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bob young
2006-11-07 13:11:02 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'

he is likely to respond with

"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same reasons
above.
Post by Pastor Frank
But
in the mean time he will just keep on doing whatever feels good,
irrespective of whether it's sin or virtue. LOL
No, Frank, it's what feels *right*.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Uncle Vic
2006-11-07 19:00:42 UTC
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Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-08 06:09:12 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
Moving on to relics, we've got shrouds, from Turin; wine from the
wedding at Cana, splinters from the true Cross Ι..then of course,
there's all the stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry shop.
Pipe racks, coffee tables, cake stands, bookends, crucifixes, nice
cheeseboard, waterproof sandals fruit bowls..

~dialogue,'The Archbishop', BlackAdder.
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-08 07:02:11 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their
belief system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a
carpenter who built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
Moving on to relics, we've got shrouds, from Turin; wine from the
wedding at Cana, splinters from the true Cross É..then of course,
there's all the stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry shop.
Pipe racks, coffee tables, cake stands, bookends, crucifixes, nice
cheeseboard, waterproof sandals fruit bowls..
~dialogue,'The Archbishop', BlackAdder.
Not to mention cheese sandwiches.
--
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aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Pastor Frank
2006-11-09 20:43:47 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
Moving on to relics, we've got shrouds, from Turin; wine from the
wedding at Cana, splinters from the true Cross É..then of course,
there's all the stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry shop.
Pipe racks, coffee tables, cake stands, bookends, crucifixes, nice
cheeseboard, waterproof sandals fruit bowls..
You forgot another thing you have lots of, and that is BS.
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-09 21:41:13 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their
belief system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a
carpenter who built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
Moving on to relics, we've got shrouds, from Turin; wine from the
wedding at Cana, splinters from the true Cross É..then of course,
there's all the stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry
shop. Pipe racks, coffee tables, cake stands, bookends, crucifixes,
nice cheeseboard, waterproof sandals fruit bowls..
You forgot another thing you have lots of, and that is BS.
Refusal to face reality seems to be one of your strong points.
--
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-08 10:08:38 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went. Ran
a "printing press" Indeed!!!
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bob young
2006-11-09 05:11:03 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went.
Let me get this straight, you subscribe to the claim that this man stood up in
front of a cripple and cured him on the spot?

Was this individual the only cripple or leper in the middle east at the time?
Nowhere is it claimed that he cured all of them. Of course not, so Jesus just
cured one or two so as to show off?

Historically preachers were, to their chagrin, being endlessly badgered to
explain what god looked like, after all, these preachers were making a
pretentious claim that humankind had been created in their god's image.

It was, of course, an impossible question to answer and their replies must have
been, at best, weak and vacillating - that is, until they hit on the idea of
creating a 'god's son', someone who could take on human form and qualities, 'A
man born of a virgin' a 'son of a god' that would make everything neat and
tidy.

But in all the accounts of this ridiculous story the first twenty years of the
life of this 'son of a god' are missing, or were overlooked, nothing at all is
recorded - 'the son of a god which created everything' lived in obscurity for
the first twenty years of his life!

It is amazing to what depths otherwise normally intelligent people can be
driven in their frantic efforts to prop up religious dogma.

Bob
Post by Pastor Frank
Ran
a "printing press" Indeed!!!
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 05:42:50 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went.
Let me get this straight, you subscribe to the claim that this man stood up in
front of a cripple and cured him on the spot?
Was this individual the only cripple or leper in the middle east at the time?
Nowhere is it claimed that he cured all of them. Of course not, so Jesus just
cured one or two so as to show off?
Historically preachers were, to their chagrin, being endlessly badgered to
explain what god looked like, after all, these preachers were making a
pretentious claim that humankind had been created in their god's image.
It was, of course, an impossible question to answer and their replies must have
been, at best, weak and vacillating - that is, until they hit on the idea of
creating a 'god's son', someone who could take on human form and qualities, 'A
man born of a virgin' a 'son of a god' that would make everything neat and
tidy.
But in all the accounts of this ridiculous story the first twenty years of the
life of this 'son of a god' are missing, or were overlooked, nothing at all is
recorded - 'the son of a god which created everything' lived in obscurity for
the first twenty years of his life!
It is amazing to what depths otherwise normally intelligent people can be
driven in their frantic efforts to prop up religious dogma.
Bob
That makes only sense from YOUR perspective, where the word "God" means
some invisible old warrior in the sky. Our Christian "God is love" 1 John
4:9,16) as demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. Nothing you
say above has any bearing upon our Christian God.
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-11 01:17:31 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
That makes only sense from YOUR perspective, where the word "God" means
some invisible old warrior in the sky. Our Christian "God is love" 1
John 4:9,16) as demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary.
Nothing you say above has any bearing upon our Christian God.
Love is an emotion, and emotions are chemical reactions experienced in the
brain. No gods needed.
--
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
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bob young
2006-11-11 04:49:01 UTC
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
That makes only sense from YOUR perspective, where the word "God" means
some invisible old warrior in the sky. Our Christian "God is love" 1
John 4:9,16) as demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary.
Nothing you say above has any bearing upon our Christian God.
Love is an emotion, and emotions are chemical reactions experienced in the
brain. No gods needed.
Frank has abandoned the god of his grandfather because it cannot stand
scrutiny
and like so many religionists before him,
has resorted to a 'modified god' god, one that, in his weird mind, is a
little more plausible.

Excuse me but...................... ROFL

Oh by the way Frank - your endless tirade and mounting insults aimed at non
believers
simply shows that you have your back squarely up against the wall.
All you need to do is prove your god and the non believers will A L L
disappear.

Bob

"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor
immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and
theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
[Catholic Church's decision against Galileo]
Post by Uncle Vic
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-11 04:56:32 UTC
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Post by bob young
Frank has abandoned the god of his grandfather because it cannot stand
scrutiny
and like so many religionists before him,
has resorted to a 'modified god' god, one that, in his weird mind, is a
little more plausible.
No shit, there are nearly as many gods as there are Christians. Of course,
to the Christian, his Christian adversary worships a false god, or the
devil. Toss a coin for the right answer.
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chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
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bob young
2006-11-12 12:47:02 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went.
Let me get this straight, you subscribe to the claim that this man stood up in
front of a cripple and cured him on the spot?
Was this individual the only cripple or leper in the middle east at the time?
Nowhere is it claimed that he cured all of them. Of course not, so Jesus just
cured one or two so as to show off?
Historically preachers were, to their chagrin, being endlessly badgered to
explain what god looked like, after all, these preachers were making a
pretentious claim that humankind had been created in their god's image.
It was, of course, an impossible question to answer and their replies must have
been, at best, weak and vacillating - that is, until they hit on the idea of
creating a 'god's son', someone who could take on human form and qualities, 'A
man born of a virgin' a 'son of a god' that would make everything neat and
tidy.
But in all the accounts of this ridiculous story the first twenty years of the
life of this 'son of a god' are missing, or were overlooked, nothing at all is
recorded - 'the son of a god which created everything' lived in obscurity for
the first twenty years of his life!
It is amazing to what depths otherwise normally intelligent people can be
driven in their frantic efforts to prop up religious dogma.
Bob
That makes only sense from YOUR perspective,
Try answering my points asshole
Post by Pastor Frank
where the word "God" means
some invisible old warrior in the sky. Our Christian "God is love" 1 John
4:9,16) as demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. Nothing you
say above has any bearing upon our Christian God.
--
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-12 22:42:57 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went.
Let me get this straight, you subscribe to the claim that this man
stood
up in
front of a cripple and cured him on the spot?
Was this individual the only cripple or leper in the middle east at the time?
Nowhere is it claimed that he cured all of them. Of course not, so
Jesus
just
cured one or two so as to show off?
Historically preachers were, to their chagrin, being endlessly badgered to
explain what god looked like, after all, these preachers were making a
pretentious claim that humankind had been created in their god's image.
It was, of course, an impossible question to answer and their replies
must
have
been, at best, weak and vacillating - that is, until they hit on the
idea
of
creating a 'god's son', someone who could take on human form and qualities, 'A
man born of a virgin' a 'son of a god' that would make everything neat and
tidy.
But in all the accounts of this ridiculous story the first twenty years
of
the
life of this 'son of a god' are missing, or were overlooked, nothing at all is
recorded - 'the son of a god which created everything' lived in
obscurity
for
the first twenty years of his life!
It is amazing to what depths otherwise normally intelligent people can be
driven in their frantic efforts to prop up religious dogma.
Bob
That makes only sense from YOUR perspective,
Try answering my points asshole
Screeching ad hominem again? Try reading the post. You are always off
topic.
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
where the word "God" means
some invisible old warrior in the sky. Our Christian "God is love" 1 John
4:9,16) as demonstrated by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. Nothing you
say above has any bearing upon our Christian God.
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-09 07:13:23 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their
belief system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a
carpenter who built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He
went. Ran a "printing press" Indeed!!!
No, what's amazing is you think Jesus actually existed.
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 11:05:02 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their
belief system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a
carpenter who built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He
went. Ran a "printing press" Indeed!!!
No, what's amazing is you think Jesus actually existed.
No, what's amazing is you apparently got proof Jesus never existed, but
decline to reveal your evidence, till we fork over money for the copyrights.
LOL
You got a long wait ahead of you!!!
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-11 01:19:26 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their
belief system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a
carpenter who built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He
went. Ran a "printing press" Indeed!!!
No, what's amazing is you think Jesus actually existed.
No, what's amazing is you apparently got proof Jesus never
existed, but
decline to reveal your evidence, till we fork over money for the
copyrights. LOL
You got a long wait ahead of you!!!
I have no more proof Jesus never existed than you have proof the Tooth
Fairy never existed. What's common between the two, however, is the lack
of evidence either existed.
--
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aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Father Haskell
2006-11-13 23:45:20 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet bob young
Post by bob young
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
It's amazing how little Christians know about the history of their belief
system. Some actually think Jesus founded the religion, a carpenter who
built churches and ran a printing press on the side.
That's not "amazing". What IS amazing is that you apparently don't know,
that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who healed people wherever He went. Ran
a "printing press" Indeed!!!
So he was a goat pornographer, and apparently a very successful
one. So what?
Father Haskell
2006-11-07 21:29:19 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Good lard, what did they use for toilet paper?
bob young
2006-11-08 06:10:18 UTC
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Post by Father Haskell
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like
perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Good lard, what did they use for toilet paper?
Good question that, I have no idea.

anyone out there know ?
Pastor Frank
2006-11-08 03:34:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same reasons
above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a white
coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
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bob young
2006-11-09 05:11:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it. Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same reasons
above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a white
coat and calls himself a scientist?
IDIOT
Post by Pastor Frank
Is your religion Scientism?
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 05:45:58 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything
in
it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want God to
do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not enough. What
next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God are in some way
inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like
perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want you
to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass in
hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why
won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we have to
take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book that's
loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same reasons
above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a white
coat and calls himself a scientist?
IDIOT
Yep! You are an atheist alright. According to atheist doctrine all who
don't believe in the men in the white coats are "IDIOTS"!!
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-09 07:16:04 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a white
coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims. You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 11:08:08 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably, like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims. You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-11 01:21:26 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion
Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
LACK of evidence is my evidence. Your only evidence is faith.
--
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aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-11 04:53:01 UTC
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Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
LACK of evidence is my evidence. Your only evidence is faith.
"Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen

yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much
evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you
give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an
invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to
accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to
require no evidence whatsoever."-
[Sam Harris, "The End of Faith"]
Post by Uncle Vic
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Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-12 12:50:03 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims. You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.

Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
Post by Pastor Frank
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-12 22:48:16 UTC
Permalink
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.
Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the Biblical
one?
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Uncle Vic
2006-11-13 06:41:15 UTC
Permalink
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Post by Pastor Frank
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the
Biblical one?
I don't know. You're the one with the biblical claims. We couldn't care
less.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
bob young
2006-11-13 10:21:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed
Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.
Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the Biblical
one?
WOW this must be the easiest post from you for a long while to answer.

Why should you give evidence? Well it would negate all atheists in one fell
swoop for starters,
and you would by just falling over yourself to do that - if you had any.

You have a million reasons why you don't produce any of course, we know why -
there is no evidence.

All it needs is some Madonna statue somewhere to start getting damp around the
eyes
and you will all be making damn fools of yourselves - well for a short while at
least, until common sense kicks in again !

Or it might be another toasted cheese sandwich that has what looks like a face
in the crust of a fella with a beard.

THAT my friend is not evidence, it is insanity.

GROAN
Post by Pastor Frank
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c***@optonline.net
2006-11-13 10:28:01 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed
Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.
Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the Biblical
one?
WOW this must be the easiest post from you for a long while to answer.
Why should you give evidence? Well it would negate all atheists in one fell
swoop for starters,
and you would by just falling over yourself to do that - if you had any.
Not just Frank the Wank but all believers. Christianity is an
evangelising conversion religion. If it had anything it would use it.
Post by bob young
You have a million reasons why you don't produce any of course, we know why -
there is no evidence.
I don't think they even fool themselves - but they have a compulsion
to tell everybody all about it.
Pastor Frank
2006-11-13 22:36:43 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed
Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.
Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the Biblical
one?
WOW this must be the easiest post from you for a long while to answer.
Why should you give evidence? Well it would negate all atheists in one fell
swoop for starters,
and you would by just falling over yourself to do that - if you had any.
You have a million reasons why you don't produce any of course, we know why -
there is no evidence.
All it needs is some Madonna statue somewhere to start getting damp around the
eyes and you will all be making damn fools of yourselves - well for a
short while at
least, until common sense kicks in again !
Or it might be another toasted cheese sandwich that has what looks like a face
in the crust of a fella with a beard.
THAT my friend is not evidence, it is insanity.
GROAN
As usual, no evidence for your assertions, "no not one". Everything you
ever talk about has absolutely no connection with Jesus Christ or anything
He said or did. Yet you keep knocking down your silly straw men to
everyone's amusement. Why not get serious for a change and find out what
Christ was all about?
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bob young
2006-11-15 05:48:02 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by bob young
Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pies de Arcilla
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions
of
people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and
everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and
all the others
are fakes?
Well, your request may be incoherent. What exactly do you want
God to do? I mean, he created the universe, but that's not
enough. What next? Let's assume all the human conceptions of
God
are in some way inadequate. Most people acknowledge that
anyway.
Bill is still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps
as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I want
you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry
ass in hell for all eternity.
Or like Jesus did, to prove his resurrection to those who missed it.
Why won't god do that for those of *us* who missed it? Instead, we
have to take the word of some pretty shady people, or believe a book
that's loaded with mistakes and contradictions.
Ask a fella in a Jerusalem street in the year three hundred AD
"Excuse me sir but where can I buy a bible around here'
he is likely to respond with
"Buy a WHAT?"
Post by Uncle Vic
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, Bill assures us, he will become a confirmed
Christian,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of his life.
I would too, if faith were erased from the picture - for the same
reasons above.
Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a
white coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Evidence, Frank. They show us evidence, and prove their claims.
You've
never done this. Why? You cannot, that's why.
Where is YOUR evidence for your claim and accusation? We all know you
don't have any. So why fake it?
What a wonderful opportunity to show us all up Frank by producing that
evidence, but instead you side step.
Well that means you have no evidence, so you and your imagionary god lose
You always proclaim, trash and vilify from up on high without citing any
evidence, Bob. Why should anyone here give you evidence beyond the Biblical
one?
WOW this must be the easiest post from you for a long while to answer.
Why should you give evidence? Well it would negate all atheists in one fell
swoop for starters,
and you would by just falling over yourself to do that - if you had any.
You have a million reasons why you don't produce any of course, we know why -
there is no evidence.
All it needs is some Madonna statue somewhere to start getting damp around the
eyes and you will all be making damn fools of yourselves - well for a
short while at
least, until common sense kicks in again !
Or it might be another toasted cheese sandwich that has what looks like a face
in the crust of a fella with a beard.
THAT my friend is not evidence, it is insanity.
GROAN
As usual, no evidence for your assertions,
No evidence of weak minded folks groveling to imaginary gods !!!!!!!!?

Why do you lie? All you people do it
Post by Pastor Frank
"no not one". Everything you
ever talk about has absolutely no connection with Jesus Christ or anything
He said or did. Yet you keep knocking down your silly straw men to
everyone's amusement. Why not get serious for a change and find out what
Christ was all about?
After seventy years I should know by now.
'He' is all about superstition borne of the insecure and arrogant,
sometimes a mixture of both
and I want no part of it.
Post by Pastor Frank
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Frank Mayhar
2006-11-10 00:27:24 UTC
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Then tell us why you believe and have faith in anyone who has a white
coat and calls himself a scientist? Is your religion Scientism?
Just because _you're_ too damned stupid to understand it doesn't mean _we_
don't understand it, Pastor Atheist. It doesn't take "faith" to believe
in reality. Just brains, which, of course, leaves you right out, doesn't
it?
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Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
johac
2006-11-04 07:33:22 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
Maybe they're fighting over who is real one. Or maybe none of them are.

I believe that if there were a god, it would be obvious. Why would a
supreme being hide from its own creations?
Post by Bill M
We're waiting!
A bit of advice. Don't hold your breath. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire

Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
bob young
2006-11-04 12:24:02 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
It's gonna be a loooooong wait
Pastor Frank
2006-11-05 09:40:47 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
It's gonna be a loooooong wait
LOL Bill and Bob are still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I
want you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass
in hell for all eternity.
After that, they assure us, they will become confirmed Christians,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of their lives. But in
the mean time they will just keep on doing whatever feels good, irrespective
of whether it's sin or virtue. And they hope it will be a "looooooong wait".
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bob young
2006-11-05 12:09:01 UTC
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Post by bob young
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
It's gonna be a loooooong wait
LOL Bill and Bob are still waiting for God to show himself unmistakably,
like perhaps as a giant talking face in the sky, saying: I am God, and I
want you to do as I tell you, or I will have my demons burn your sorry ass
in hell for all eternity.
That's what your great grandpappy thought Frank,
so why has it all been changed?

Tell yer why,
becuase it is all man made
and myths do not stand the test of time
Post by Pastor Frank
After that, they assure us, they will become confirmed Christians,
following God's commandments faithfully for the rest of their lives. But in
the mean time they will just keep on doing whatever feels good, irrespective
of whether it's sin or virtue. And they hope it will be a "looooooong wait".
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Pastor Frank
2006-11-03 22:06:04 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
Still looking for that giant talking face in the sky saying: I am God,
and I want you to do as I tell you, or my devils are going to burn your
sorry ass in hell for evermore?
ROFL
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bob young
2006-11-05 12:12:06 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people
base their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it,
why does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
others are fakes?
We're waiting!
Still looking for that giant talking face in the sky saying: I am God,
and I want you to do as I tell you, or my devils are going to burn your
sorry ass in hell for evermore?
ROFL
Sad, quite sad.
Post by Pastor Frank
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Melchizedek
2006-11-04 21:43:04 UTC
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There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.



If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not

announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?



We're waiting!

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;-D.

You are caught in a catch-22 position. You cannot understand
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jemsohara
2006-11-05 11:54:18 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Maybe Bill he's wants you to wait? He is God after all! He is not
about Bill, He is about God.

He gave you all the prohets, and Jesus too, why should He try any
harder?
Bill M
2006-11-05 16:40:15 UTC
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Post by jemsohara
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Maybe Bill he's wants you to wait? He is God after all! He is not
about Bill, He is about God.
He gave you all the prohets, and Jesus too, why should He try any
harder?
Why would any 'REAL' God permit his followers to be misled by hundreds of
myths and fables??? Let's face it. There is NO objective verifiable evidence
that ANY
God actually exists except in the imaginations of man!
bob young
2006-11-06 10:34:02 UTC
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Post by Bill M
Post by jemsohara
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Maybe Bill he's wants you to wait? He is God after all! He is not
about Bill, He is about God.
He gave you all the prohets, and Jesus too, why should He try any
harder?
Why would any 'REAL' God permit his followers to be misled by hundreds of
myths and fables??? Let's face it. There is NO objective verifiable evidence
that ANY
God actually exists except in the imaginations of man!
Proven by man's penchant to create break away cults witin any given religion.

No god would allow that if it were real.
bob young
2006-11-06 10:32:07 UTC
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Post by jemsohara
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Maybe Bill he's wants you to wait? He is God after all! He is not
about Bill, He is about God.
He gave you all the prohets, and Jesus too, why should He try any
harder?
Prophets !?

They were all charlatans who stood up in front of their admiring followers
and lied through their teeth
claiming a direct link with some god

Jesus ?!

Well he was most likely an invention in order to prop up a decaying myth:

CURTAIN RISES

[Menam, a Priest, is talking with his buddies in the temple.

�Brothers the flock are restless and I'm tired of them asking me 'Where is the
god you want us to pray to', they keep insisting on seeing him"

Rastus, [another priest]:

"I have the same problem, it's getting me down, they keep saying 'Where is he,
produce him'. You know the Vishnus down the road have a wooden god in a hut for
everyone to see and more and more people are going there to pray these days�

Influx [The Senior Priest]:

"Listen, let's invite that fella Jesus to join us, he is popular and he preaches
well. We'll say he is god's son�.

Rastus. [Laughing]

�Don't be silly, how can we say that, he's just a preacher and gods don't send
their sons down to earth. How do we say he got here?�

Influx. [Thinks]

�Well we can tell them 'e was borne of a virgin. [scratches head] I'm sure we can
find one somewhere, if we look hard enough.

Rastus.

That won't be any use, when 'e dies we'll have to start all over and find another
'son of a god' and anyway, they are not going to buy that yarn of yours a second
time over!

Influx. [grins]

Aaah but listen. [Chuckles] When 'e dies we'll hide him away in a cave, steal the
body in the middle of the night and then, listen to this, your gonna love this,
[nudges Rastus in the ribs] and then [hee hee] we'll tell 'em he floated slowly
up into the sky to heaven just above the clouds [raises arms and makes floating
motions] and he now sits up there on the right hand of god.

Fellas we'll have 'em in the palm of our hands for eternity.

[All priests together]:

"spontaneous cheering�.
IBen Getiner
2006-11-05 12:10:37 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Revelations 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me.


Try it, azzhole. Then you won't be confused all the time about what is
really simple simple shit to the rest of us...
Lucifer
2006-11-05 15:29:55 UTC
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Post by IBen Getiner
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Revelations 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me.
Try it, azzhole. Then you won't be confused all the time about what is
really simple simple shit to the rest of us...
Dude, why don't you try LSD, the hallucinations are even stronger.

Alternatively, try sanity, fuck off, die somewhere quietly, and don't
ever write here again. Then again, that would be reasonable

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Pastor Frank
2006-11-05 21:11:43 UTC
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Post by IBen Getiner
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Revelations 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me.
Try it, azzhole. Then you won't be confused all the time about what is
really simple simple shit to the rest of us...
Oh btw, talking about shit reminds me of my list of the worlds great
religions or belief systems defined in terms of shit. See below and enjoy

Pastor Frank

HOW SHIT FIGURES IN THE WORLD'S RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES
Animism: There's a spirit in every Shit
Agnosticism: I don't know if Shit Happens for divine reasons.
Atheism: Shit Happens for no divine reason.
Bahais: Inspired by the prophets, a good Shit can be had by all
Baptist: When Shit Happens it's the wrath of God! (Amen!)
Buddhism: If Shit Happens, it really is not Shit.
Catholic: Shit Happens to those who deserve it
Confucianism: Confucius say: "Shit Happens."
Copts: We just ignore all the Shit
Druids: 21st June, the longest Shit of the year
Hare Krishna: ShitHappensShitHappensShitHappensShitHappensShitHappens
Hasidim: 613 kinds of shit, and don't we know it already
Hinduism: This Shit Happened before (and it will happen again).
Islam: If Shit Happens, it's the will of Allah.
Jain: Preserve the living Shit
Jehovah's Witnesses: Let us in and we will tell you why Shit Happens.
Judaism: Why does Shit always happen to us?
Lamaists: Shit, coming round again
Maronites: No one knows where our Shit is
Marxism: Religion is the shit of the people
Nestorianism: Who cares about Shit, let's have a drink
Orthodox: If Shit Happens, don't worry, be happy.
Protestant: Shit Happens to test our faith
Rastafarianism: Pass the Shit, man
Romanian Orthodox: Shit happens at home
Rosicrucianism: This Shit is magic
Scientology: Feces occur.
Shintoism: Our ancestors' Shit is very holy
Taoism: Shit Happens
Unitarians: We don't know what this Shit is, or if we even believe in
it, and we can't explain it to anyone else, but we're nice people and
we'll share our shit with anyone who's as vague as we are.
Weefree: No Shittin' on the sabbath
Zen: Shit only Happens when it does not Happen.
Zoroastrians: Hot Shit
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bob young
2006-11-06 10:35:06 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by IBen Getiner
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Revelations 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he
with me.
Try it, azzhole. Then you won't be confused all the time about what is
really simple simple shit to the rest of us...
Oh btw, talking about shit reminds me of my list of the worlds great
religions or belief systems defined in terms of shit.
Well makes a change from your usual shit Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
See below and enjoy
Pastor Frank
HOW SHIT FIGURES IN THE WORLD'S RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES
Animism: There's a spirit in every Shit
Agnosticism: I don't know if Shit Happens for divine reasons.
Atheism: Shit Happens for no divine reason.
Bahais: Inspired by the prophets, a good Shit can be had by all
Baptist: When Shit Happens it's the wrath of God! (Amen!)
Buddhism: If Shit Happens, it really is not Shit.
Catholic: Shit Happens to those who deserve it
Confucianism: Confucius say: "Shit Happens."
Copts: We just ignore all the Shit
Druids: 21st June, the longest Shit of the year
Hare Krishna: ShitHappensShitHappensShitHappensShitHappensShitHappens
Hasidim: 613 kinds of shit, and don't we know it already
Hinduism: This Shit Happened before (and it will happen again).
Islam: If Shit Happens, it's the will of Allah.
Jain: Preserve the living Shit
Jehovah's Witnesses: Let us in and we will tell you why Shit Happens.
Judaism: Why does Shit always happen to us?
Lamaists: Shit, coming round again
Maronites: No one knows where our Shit is
Marxism: Religion is the shit of the people
Nestorianism: Who cares about Shit, let's have a drink
Orthodox: If Shit Happens, don't worry, be happy.
Protestant: Shit Happens to test our faith
Rastafarianism: Pass the Shit, man
Romanian Orthodox: Shit happens at home
Rosicrucianism: This Shit is magic
Scientology: Feces occur.
Shintoism: Our ancestors' Shit is very holy
Taoism: Shit Happens
Unitarians: We don't know what this Shit is, or if we even believe in
it, and we can't explain it to anyone else, but we're nice people and
we'll share our shit with anyone who's as vague as we are.
Weefree: No Shittin' on the sabbath
Zen: Shit only Happens when it does not Happen.
Zoroastrians: Hot Shit
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Puma
2006-11-08 21:14:24 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,

First of all what GOD is should be known....

God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...

God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

Thats it...

Puma
Lucifer
2006-11-08 21:26:28 UTC
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Post by Puma
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma
Only, if looked at objectively, there is no evidence for any god (not
even the half assed deist one), but there is plenty of evidence for
other explanations.

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
bob young
2006-11-09 04:30:02 UTC
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Post by Puma
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
All these 'gods' explain is the degree of stupidity that we homo sapiens,
or some of us, can descend to.
Post by Puma
Thats it...
Puma
Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 17:25:01 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
There goes Bill again with one of his favourite copy and pastes. Bill is
waiting for God to appear as something like a giant talking face in the sky,
saying: I am God and I want you to listen to me and do as I tell you, or I
will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell for all eternity.
After which, Bill tells us he will become a devout Christian, never
again to stray from the straight and narrow. On the other hand, he also may
become a sly, obsequious, sycophant who hates God in his heart.
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Eric Jones
2006-11-11 16:16:53 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
There goes Bill again with one of his favourite copy and pastes. Bill is
waiting for God to appear as something like a giant talking face in the sky,
saying: I am God and I want you to listen to me and do as I tell you, or I
will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell for all eternity.
After which, Bill tells us he will become a devout Christian, never
again to stray from the straight and narrow. On the other hand, he also may
become a sly, obsequious, sycophant who hates God in his heart.
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Orthodox christian belief holds that there will be no more
divine revelation until the end time (whenever that is).
So that view precludes announcements from heaven.

The Scottish philosopher, David Hume, pointed out
that mankind never perceives metaphysical beings in
metaphysical form; but always in physical form. God
in "simple" form as an old man with a beard - see
Blake's paintings, angels in "compound" form as
humans with large bird's wings. They were regarded
as needing wings as God's messengers.

Eric
Father Haskell
2006-11-14 22:27:07 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
There goes Bill again with one of his favourite copy and pastes. Bill is
waiting for God to appear as something like a giant talking face in the sky,
saying: I am God and I want you to listen to me and do as I tell you, or I
will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell for all eternity.
The Cheshire jebus? Only if he eats enough 'shrooms, enough
to become as insane as you are, difference being that in six
hours, he'll be sane again.
Post by Pastor Frank
After which, Bill tells us he will become a devout Christian, never
again to stray from the straight and narrow. On the other hand, he also may
become a sly, obsequious, sycophant who hates God in his heart.
You're not paying attention. He might as well hate god in his
gall bladder or his kidneys.
bob young
2006-11-15 05:44:03 UTC
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where is the real god?

He is probably hiding behind the sofa
May
2006-11-15 12:38:26 UTC
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Why do religious people always thing 'God' should fix their problems for
them? I thought life was all about teaching 'yourself' how to overcome the
many of life's obstacles and not for a supreme being to fix them every time
thinks get tough!



http://www.tlrampa.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Religion.htm will answer that
question.
bob young
2006-11-15 13:09:01 UTC
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Post by May
Why do religious people always thing 'God' should fix their problems for
them? I thought life was all about teaching 'yourself' how to overcome the
many of life's obstacles and not for a supreme being to fix them every time
thinks get tough!
Gods go back ages, to times when they understood very little, could cure very
few illnesses and life was lived without rule of law or law enforcement, hence
the uses of these old beliefs, they brought relief at the time and sighs of
pity in the year 2006.
Post by May
http://www.tlrampa.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Religion.htm will answer that
question.
bob young
2006-11-09 05:32:03 UTC
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Nowhere to be seen,
it is simply a 'flight of fancy'
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Pastor Frank
2006-11-10 05:50:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Nowhere to be seen, it is simply a 'flight of fancy'
LOL There goes Bill again with one of his favourite copy and pastes.
Bill is
waiting for God to appear as something like a giant talking face in the sky,
saying: I am God and I want you to listen to me and do as I tell you, or I
will have my demons burn your sorry ass in hell for all eternity.
After which, Bill tells us he will become a devout Christian, never to
again stray from the straight and narrow. On the other hand, he also may
become a sly, obsequious, sycophant who hates God in his heart.
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w***@Phreaker.net
2006-11-10 00:45:52 UTC
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Post by Bill M
There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Keep waiting. God is in New Jersey and does not bother even to open his
mail. :-)


http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/11/02/unanswered.prayers.ap


Letters to God found dumped off New Jersey coast

POSTED: 2215 GMT (0615 HKT), November 2, 2006

ATLANTIC CITY, New Jersey (AP) -- Some of the letters are comical (a
man asking God to let him win the lottery, twice), others are
heartbreaking (a distraught teen asking forgiveness for an abortion, an
unwed mother pleading with God to make the baby's father marry her).

The letters -- about 300 in all, sent to a New Jersey minister -- ended
up dumped in the ocean, most of them unopened.

The minister died two years ago at 79. How the letters, some dating to
1973, wound up bobbing in the surf is a mystery.

"There are hundreds of lives here, a lot of struggle, washed up on the
beach," said Bill Lacovara, a Ventnor insurance adjuster who was
fishing last month with his son when he spotted a flowered plastic
shopping bag and waded out to retrieve it.

"This is just a hint of what really happens. How many letters like this
all over the world aren't being opened or answered?"

Many of the letters were addressed to the Rev. Grady Cooper, though
many more simply said "Altar." According to the text of several of
them, they were intended to be placed on a church's altar and prayed
over by the minister, the congregation or both.

Some were neatly written in script on white-lined paper, others in a
feverish scrawl on tattered scraps of parchment or note cards. Many
were crinkled from being in the water and then dried out after Lacovara
fished them out of the sea.

A dog-eared business card inside one of the letters identified Cooper
as associate pastor of the Mount Calvary Baptist Church in Jersey City.
A woman who answered the phone at the church office confirmed Cooper
once was a minister there, and had died nearly two years ago. The
current pastor did not return several calls from The Associated Press
over the past few days.

Other documents in the bag, including bank statements and canceled
checks, also listed Cooper's name and an address for him in Jersey
City. A death certificate issued in 2004 for a Grady Cooper lists the
same address as those on the bank documents and some of the letters.

His wife, Frances, whose name also showed up on some of the letters at
the same address, died in 2000, according to Hudson County records.

No one answered the door last week at the address where Cooper once
lived, and a neighbor said he did not recall anyone by that name.
Attempts to locate Cooper's relatives were unsuccessful.

Lacovara speculated that someone cleaning out Cooper's home found the
letters and threw them on the beach in Atlantic City, about 100 miles
from Jersey City.

"I guess rather than just throw them in the garbage, maybe they thought
they'd set them out to sea to bless these people," he said. "So they
made a trip to Atlantic City, maybe went to a casino, and put the
letters in the water."

The letters, wrapped in several smaller brown paper bags inside the
larger plastic bag, did not appear to have been in the water too long,
Lacovara said, though about half were too badly damaged to be legible.

Humorous and heartbreaking
He opened a few with his son, Rocky, on the beach. The first few were
humorous.

"I'm still praying to hit the lottery twice: first the $50,000," one
man wrote. "Than after some changes have taken place let me hit the
millionaire."

Another asked God to make a certain someone "leave me alone and stay
off my back," while still another asks God to calm a woman who "call
the Internal Revenue on me."

One woman complained that her husband always talks about sex, and
another writer anonymously dropped a dime to God on someone cheating on
his wife, complete with dates, times and locations.

But those, Lacovara soon found, were the exception.

Many more were written by anguished spouses, children or widows,
pouring out their hearts to God, asking for help with relatives who
were using drugs, gambling or cheating on them.

One man wrote from prison, saying he was innocent and wanted to be back
home with his family. A woman wrote that her boyfriend was now closing
the door to her daughter's bedroom each night when it used to stay
open, and wondered why.

A teenager poured out her heart on yellow-lined paper in the curlicue
pencil handwriting of a schoolgirl, begging God to forgive her and
asking for a second chance.

"Lord, I know that I have had an abortion and I killed one of your
angels," she wrote. "There is not a day that goes by that I don't think
about the mistake I made."

One unwed mother wrote that her baby was due in four weeks, and asked
God to make the father fall in love with her and marry her so the child
would have a father.

Lacovara said he is sad that most of the writers never had their
letters read. But he hopes to change that soon: He is putting the
collection up for sale on eBay.
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