Where is the real God?

[Puma]

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,

First of all what GOD is should be known....

God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...

God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

Thats it...

Puma

Reply »

[Robibnikoff]

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....

Which god are you talking about?

God is the explanation of the existence...

Which god and based on what evidence?

If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...

Well, gee, no kidding.

God can not be belonged to any religion....

Which god?!?

God is only an explanation

of our existence.

Maybe it's your explanation, but it certainly isn't mine.

Thats it...

So you say.

[Puma]

Post by Robibnikoff

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....

Which god are you talking about?

God is the explanation of the existence...

Which god and based on what evidence?

If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...

Well, gee, no kidding.

God can not be belonged to any religion....

Which god?!?

God is only an explanation

of our existence.
Maybe it's your explanation, but it certainly isn't mine.

Thats it...

So you say.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence,,,Whatever is the explanation of this existence that becomes
GOD...Say you do not have any faith or you are an atheist,,,O.K. but
in anycase you have a sort of explanation regarding how everything came
out...Then whatever is your explanation ,,,that is your GOD....

You may not be mindful of it but certainly this is your GOD...This is
what I am saying...

With compassion,

Puma

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Puma

Post by Robibnikoff

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,
why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....

Which god are you talking about?

God is the explanation of the existence...

Which god and based on what evidence?

If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...

Well, gee, no kidding.

God can not be belonged to any religion....

Which god?!?

God is only an explanation

of our existence.
Maybe it's your explanation, but it certainly isn't mine.

Thats it...

When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

Mere opinion duly noted - I was asking you a question. Why is that so hard
for you to understand? Answer the question first and I'll consider the rest
of what you've written.

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence,,,

That's only your opinion - Not everyone needs this - I don't.

Whatever is the explanation of this existence that becomes

Post by Puma
GOD...

So, I should considering my biological parents gods? LOL - Um, no thanks.

Post by Puma
Say you do not have any faith or you are an atheist,,

Yeah, and?

,O.K. but

Post by Puma
in anycase you have a sort of explanation regarding how everything came
out...Then whatever is your explanation ,,,that is your GOD....

Actually I don't have an explanation, because I don't care. I couldn't care
less how anything came into being. I don't give a shit. Consequently, I
don't have a god either.

Post by Puma
You may not be mindful of it but certainly this is your GOD...This is
what I am saying...

And I'm saying that you're wrong.

[a***@charter.net]

Post by Robibnikoff

Post by Puma
You may not be mindful of it but certainly this is your GOD...This is
what I am saying...

And I'm saying that you're wrong.

Quite - wrong AND dense/under-informed. Maybe Puma would
be interested to know that the "argument from design", though
common, is definitely NOT the only line of reasoning that
convinces theists of their beliefs, nor is it the best.

Then again, being the best of the worst wouldn't help it anyway,
now would it ?

[Mark K. Bilbo]

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence

So why make up stories about "god" widgets?

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma
When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

You are projecting. "Whatever is the explanation of this existence that
becomes GOD". Those are your thoughts, and that is all your are willing
to hear. You posted the same mumbo-jumbo to everyone who responded.

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence

The difference here is that atheists trust scientific explanations, which
offer evidence. Not big dumb guesses that make you feel good.

Post by Puma
,,,Whatever is the explanation of this existence that becomes
GOD...Say you do not have any faith or you are an atheist,,,O.K. but
in anycase you have a sort of explanation regarding how everything came
out...Then whatever is your explanation ,,,that is your GOD....

You are nuts, but this is my observation of everyone who attempts to
bring his fantasy god into the world of reality.

Post by Puma
You may not be mindful of it but certainly this is your GOD...This is
what I am saying...

Here's a dollar. $ Go buy yourself a sewing needle and some thread.
Then sew your lips shut, you sanctimonious moron.

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma
When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

You are projecting. "Whatever is the explanation of this existence that
becomes GOD". Those are your thoughts, and that is all your are willing
to hear. You posted the same mumbo-jumbo to everyone who responded.

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence

The difference here is that atheists trust scientific explanations, which
offer evidence. Not big dumb guesses that make you feel good.

Vic here is a true-believer in Scientism, the white-coated priests of
which demand absolute fealty, belief and faith without question. They even
have their belief in evolution enshrined in law, making the mere mention of
any other model in the classrooms of the nation a criminal offence.
That is all necessary because to understand their "proof" you need to be
a white coated priest yourself. At one time they had us all believe in the
Piltdown man, failure to do so meant failing their course in college.
Unfortunately the Piltdown man turned out to be piggy bones.

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma
When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

You are projecting. "Whatever is the explanation of this existence
that becomes GOD". Those are your thoughts, and that is all your are
willing to hear. You posted the same mumbo-jumbo to everyone who
responded.

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence

The difference here is that atheists trust scientific explanations,
which offer evidence. Not big dumb guesses that make you feel good.

Vic here is a true-believer in Scientism, the white-coated priests of
which demand absolute fealty, belief and faith without question.

The scientists themselves ask the questions, Frank. Then they perform
test after test, in order to qualify the answer as truth. Do your
priests do that? NO, they are knotted to a book of ancient unchanging
scripture, the Word of God, which is claimed Truth whether you like it or
not. If you disagree with Biblical Truth, you can expect to burn in hell
forever. If you disagree with science, those smarter than you may laugh
at you, but you will be left to your own demise.

Post by Pastor Frank
They
even have their belief in evolution enshrined in law, making the mere
mention of any other model in the classrooms of the nation a criminal
offence.

Frank, evolution has mountains of supporting evidence. It is real
science, like geology, biology or chemistry. It's as real as mathematics
and world history. Denying this fact is denial of reality, something
fundamentalist Christians are famous for. "President" Bush denies
reality. Do you?

Post by Pastor Frank
That is all necessary because to understand their "proof" you need to be
a white coated priest yourself. At one time they had us all believe in
the Piltdown man, failure to do so meant failing their course in
college. Unfortunately the Piltdown man turned out to be piggy bones.

Puh-lease! Science is aware of its mistakes, and has rescinded them. I
challenge you to name one religious icon who has challenged the
Resurrection for lack of evidence.

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma
When you ask WHICH GOD, it clearly indicates that you are not
listening what I am saying...All you do hear is your own thoughts...

You are projecting. "Whatever is the explanation of this existence
that becomes GOD". Those are your thoughts, and that is all your are
willing to hear. You posted the same mumbo-jumbo to everyone who
responded.

Post by Puma
I am saying that ACTUALLY people needs an explanation of our
existence

The difference here is that atheists trust scientific explanations,
which offer evidence. Not big dumb guesses that make you feel good.

Vic here is a true-believer in Scientism, the white-coated priests of
which demand absolute fealty, belief and faith without question.

The scientists themselves ask the questions, Frank. Then they perform
test after test, in order to qualify the answer as truth. Do your
priests do that? NO, they are knotted to a book of ancient unchanging
scripture, the Word of God, which is claimed Truth whether you like it or
not. If you disagree with Biblical Truth, you can expect to burn in hell
forever. If you disagree with science, those smarter than you may laugh
at you, but you will be left to your own demise.

Why, did you go to Seminary or have a Theology Degree, that you should
know so much about what"priests" do, and what is expected of us?
The only thing I see "knotted" if not twisted here, are your nickers.

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by Pastor Frank
They
even have their belief in evolution enshrined in law, making the mere
mention of any other model in the classrooms of the nation a criminal
offence.

Frank, evolution has mountains of supporting evidence. It is real
science, like geology, biology or chemistry. It's as real as mathematics
and world history. Denying this fact is denial of reality, something
fundamentalist Christians are famous for. "President" Bush denies
reality. Do you?

You are way behind the times. There is no statistitians who agree with
Darwinism. Furthermore you only recite your white coated priests' assertions
without checking them out yourself. That makes you a true-believer in
Scientism.

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by Pastor Frank
That is all necessary because to understand their "proof" you need to be
a white coated priest yourself. At one time they had us all believe in
the Piltdown man, failure to do so meant failing their course in
college. Unfortunately the Piltdown man turned out to be piggy bones.

Puh-lease! Science is aware of its mistakes, and has rescinded them. I
challenge you to name one religious icon who has challenged the
Resurrection for lack of evidence.

Christ resurrected in all our hearts and minds, only atheists decide to
ignore Him.

[Scott Richter]

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Christ resurrected in all our hearts and minds, only atheists decide to
ignore Him.

And after making such a staggeringly stupid statement above, why should
anyone give any credence to what you have to say about Christ or
anything else for that matter?

I hope you understand that people read and respond to your posts
precisely because they are so idiotic. Amusing, but idiotic...

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Glad you don't dispute that facts. "what an imbecile" indeed!!!!

[Scott Richter]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Glad you don't dispute that facts.

Sorry, Frankie, you're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not
entitled to your own facts.

And in my opinion, you are an imbecile--an opinion I believe is shared
by nearly everyone in this newsgroup...

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Scott Richter

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Glad you don't dispute that facts.

Sorry, Frankie, you're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not
entitled to your own facts.
And in my opinion, you are an imbecile--an opinion I believe is shared
by nearly everyone in this newsgroup...

LOL You don't know anybody who is not an "imbicile", at least you never
told us of any. Anyway, to dismiss fact your don't agree with sans evidence
and call people you disagree with "imbiciles" etc. is all atheist doctrine.

[Scott Richter]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Glad you don't dispute that facts.

Sorry, Frankie, you're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not
entitled to your own facts.
And in my opinion, you are an imbecile--an opinion I believe is shared
by nearly everyone in this newsgroup...

LOL You don't know anybody who is not an "imbicile", at least you never
told us of any. Anyway, to dismiss fact your don't agree with sans evidence
and call people you disagree with "imbiciles" etc. is all atheist doctrine.

Well, at least I know how to spell "imbecile".

And it's not a question of disagreeing with your facts. Your statement
that "There is no [sic] statistitians [sic] who agree with Darwinism"
was so patently absurd (not to mention grammatically mangled) that the
only reasonable response is to dismiss the person making the statement
as, yes, an imbecile. Or if would you prefer, "a fucking moron"...

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Scott Richter

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Glad you don't dispute that facts.

Sorry, Frankie, you're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not
entitled to your own facts.
And in my opinion, you are an imbecile--an opinion I believe is shared
by nearly everyone in this newsgroup...

LOL You don't know anybody who is not an "imbicile", at least you never
told us of any. Anyway, to dismiss fact your don't agree with sans evidence
and call people you disagree with "imbiciles" etc. is all atheist doctrine.

Well, at least I know how to spell "imbecile".
And it's not a question of disagreeing with your facts. Your statement
that "There is no [sic] statistitians [sic] who agree with Darwinism"
was so patently absurd (not to mention grammatically mangled) that the
only reasonable response is to dismiss the person making the statement
as, yes, an imbecile. Or if would you prefer, "a fucking moron"...

Glad you don't dispute the fact, that no statistician agrees with
Darwinism. All else are just the usual brainless atheists flames. "absurd
moron" indeed!!!

[bob young]

Post by Scott Richter

There is no statistitians who agree with Darwinism.

What an imbecile...

Christ resurrected in all our hearts and minds, only atheists decide to
ignore Him.

And after making such a staggeringly stupid statement above, why should
anyone give any credence to what you have to say about Christ or
anything else for that matter?
I hope you understand that people read and respond to your posts
precisely because they are so idiotic. Amusing, but idiotic...

...I agree, when I see a post from Pastural Frank it is a case of
"I wonder what crap he's coming out with today"
It all good for a giggle I suppose, after all, telveision is not very
entertaining these days.

A recent gambit of his - 'god is love'
and from this 'love' was created a son called Jesus,
who we must all follow, or else we will spend the rest of our days bening
burned alive

One thing our early ancestors forgot to include in their reigious practices
was humour,
I suppose the fear of being burned alive mixed with a few jokes
may have detracted from the main theme, 'Become one of us or else'

Moving on to relics, we've got shrouds, from Turin; wine from the
wedding at Cana, splinters from the true Cross Ι..then of course,
there's all the stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry shop.
Pipe racks, coffee tables, cake stands, bookends, crucifixes, nice
cheeseboard, waterproof sandals fruit bowls..

~dialogue,'The Archbishop', BlackAdder.

[Ghod]

"Puma" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[snipppppppp]

Post by Puma
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an

explanation

Post by Puma
of our existence.

Ghod "can not be belonged to any religion", 'cause I'm an atheist.

[AcesLucky]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma
Reply »

And you know this how?

.
alt.yoga removed; too many cross posts

[L. Raymond]

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.

[Puma]

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,

My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...

No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...

With compassion,

Puma

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,
My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...

WTF?

[L. Raymond]

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.

My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...

Go up like olive oil? On fire? In a balloon? As a, ummmm, medically
necessary cleansing device (I do *not* want to use the word "enema"
here)? What on Earth do you mean?

Post by Puma
No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,

But it's not god. Gods are the explanation used by the magically
minded when they either don't know, won't accept or can't understand how
reality works.

Post by Puma
so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...

Before you were mistaken, now you are simply lying. The word "god" in
English has a specific meaning and a million idiosyncratic corollaries.
A god is a sentient supernatural being. Attributes, personalities,
powers etc. vary from god to god. An explanation is not a god. Words
are not gods. Ignorance is not a god.

Something for you to think about is why you feel the need to alter the
meaning of science and why you're trying to make it more like your
religion. Perhaps you recognize how empty your beliefs are since you're
just making them up as you go, but you're too afraid to step away from
your god and face the world as it really is, so you're trying to weave
science into your fantasy?

[Michael Gray]

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,
My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...
No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...
With compassion,
Puma

What a fucking useless definition.

--

[Paul Ransom Erickson]

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,
My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...
No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...

Not everybody has an explanation for our existence.

My parents might be seen as explaining my own existence. Are they my
GOD?

Or, as it seems to me, evolution might explain the existence of the
human species -- is evolutuion my GOD?

I think the regularities of physics go a long way toward explaining
the existence of this planet. Is physics my GOD?

And I have no idea why there is a universe rather than no universe; or
why the universe is as it is instead of some other arbitrary way. Is
there something in my ignorance about this that you want to call my
GOD?

Seems like I have a lot of GODs, since I could easily list a lot of
other types of explanation for our existence.

The really odd thing, though, is that you need to choose that one word
"GOD" to refer to any person's ecplanation for human existence. It
seems to me that you are setting the stage for an equivocation: as
soon as anyone agrees to use your supposedly unprejudiced definition,
you are going to start talking about the _religious idea of a single
God.

Admit it.

Why else would you use that particular word? And why in all caps?

[Puma]

Post by Paul Ransom Erickson

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,
My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...
No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...

Not everybody has an explanation for our existence.
My parents might be seen as explaining my own existence. Are they my
GOD?
Or, as it seems to me, evolution might explain the existence of the
human species -- is evolutuion my GOD?
I think the regularities of physics go a long way toward explaining
the existence of this planet. Is physics my GOD?
And I have no idea why there is a universe rather than no universe; or
why the universe is as it is instead of some other arbitrary way. Is
there something in my ignorance about this that you want to call my
GOD?
Seems like I have a lot of GODs, since I could easily list a lot of
other types of explanation for our existence.
The really odd thing, though, is that you need to choose that one word
"GOD" to refer to any person's ecplanation for human existence. It
seems to me that you are setting the stage for an equivocation: as
soon as anyone agrees to use your supposedly unprejudiced definition,
you are going to start talking about the _religious idea of a single
God.
Admit it.
Why else would you use that particular word? And why in all caps?

Hi Paul,

If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

If you only try to give discreet explanations as you have given in the
case of your personal existence your parents becomes your God. same is
thru for the existence of human species,so it is the evolution... And
so on...

But if you are looking for only one explanation for the WHOLE
EXISTENCE. Then it is GOD.

This is it... You have to deem on it,,,this is a definite
definition...This is used in everywhere,whether the name of GOD is
involved or not...

With compassion,

Puma

[James Kilpatrick]

Post by Puma
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

You can't DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce EVIDENCE of
your thingy.

[Puma]

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

You can't DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce EVIDENCE of
your thingy.

Hi Jimmy,

My evidence of my thingy IS the WHOLE EXISTENCE...

If still not clear please let me know...

With compassion,

Puma

[James Kilpatrick]

Post by Puma

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

You can't DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce EVIDENCE of
your thingy.

Hi Jimmy,
My evidence of my thingy IS the WHOLE EXISTENCE...

Evidence means proof of. See
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aevidence

You are not producing proof, you are just trying to define your thingy into
existence by defining it as 'the whole of existence'. I repeat, you cannot
just DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce proof of your
thingy.

[Puma]

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

You can't DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce EVIDENCE of
your thingy.

Hi Jimmy,
My evidence of my thingy IS the WHOLE EXISTENCE...

Evidence means proof of. See
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aevidence
You are not producing proof, you are just trying to define your thingy into
existence by defining it as 'the whole of existence'. I repeat, you cannot
just DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce proof of your
thingy.

Hi Jimmy,

If you really read and realise what I am saying , you will accept my
definition...

I am saying that: God is the name given to any explanation of the
existence...How existence happened .....Whatever is explaining this
event is called God...It is not required
to have this particular name,,but all are the same....

So simple, if you still have any difficulty in understanding this.
Please do not hesitate to ask me....

With compassion,

Puma

[Michael Gray]

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:17:40 -0800, "James Kilpatrick"

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.

You can't DEFINE your thingy into existence, you have to produce EVIDENCE of
your thingy.

Millions of people have been trying, since time immemorial, to produce
at least *some* evidence.
Score so far: Not even a tiny scrap.

That's got to be a tiny hint to sane people.
The ingorant and insane mostly lie about it, and don't take the
obvious hint.

--

[Paul Ransom Erickson]

Post by Puma

Post by Paul Ransom Erickson

Post by Puma

Post by L. Raymond

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

You are incorrect to make such a sweeping generalization. You could
try, "Gods are the explanation for natural phenomena used by misguided
people who think the universe is sentient." That's being generous to
the believers, of course, but it's more accurate than what you wrote.
--
L. Raymond

Hi L. Raymond,
My saying might be incorrect as all the other sayings... But You seem
to be prejudice, because you are trying to go up like olive oil...
No matter who you are,,,everybody has an explanation of our
existence,,, it might be religious or scientific or a special
type,,,but everyone has this explanation,,,so whatever is your
explanation regarding existence it is GOD... You have one too...

Not everybody has an explanation for our existence.
My parents might be seen as explaining my own existence. Are they my
GOD?
Or, as it seems to me, evolution might explain the existence of the
human species -- is evolutuion my GOD?
I think the regularities of physics go a long way toward explaining
the existence of this planet. Is physics my GOD?
And I have no idea why there is a universe rather than no universe; or
why the universe is as it is instead of some other arbitrary way. Is
there something in my ignorance about this that you want to call my
GOD?
Seems like I have a lot of GODs, since I could easily list a lot of
other types of explanation for our existence.
The really odd thing, though, is that you need to choose that one word
"GOD" to refer to any person's ecplanation for human existence. It
seems to me that you are setting the stage for an equivocation: as
soon as anyone agrees to use your supposedly unprejudiced definition,
you are going to start talking about the _religious idea of a single
God.
Admit it.
Why else would you use that particular word? And why in all caps?

Hi Paul,
If you really pay a real attention to my definition you will end up
with GOD.
If you only try to give discreet explanations as you have given in the
case of your personal existence your parents becomes your God. same is
thru for the existence of human species,so it is the evolution... And
so on...
But if you are looking for only one explanation for the WHOLE
EXISTENCE. Then it is GOD.
This is it... You have to deem on it,,,this is a definite
definition...This is used in everywhere,whether the name of GOD is
involved or not...

That is fine, but you sould realize that the reason people won't just
go ahead and talk about their explanations for things as GOD is that
it feels like stepping into a trap. And you have just practically
admitted that the word GOD means more to you than simply any person's
explanation for existence.

And what explanation for God? Turtles all the way down?

[Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.

Klazmon.
<SNIP>

[Puma]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...

Now please listen what I am saying....

No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...

Because GOD is the explanation of how we came out,, it might be
religious or scientific or a special type of occurance,,,but in anycase
we all have an explanation of the existence.

You have an explanation too,,,don`t you have one? So , whatever is your
explanation,then it is your GOD...

I hope now you do deem over it...

With compassion,

Puma

[p***@hotmail.com]

Post by Puma

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...
Now please listen what I am saying....
No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...

Tell that insult again, and prepare to be virtually skewered. What hair
color is *bald* in your world?

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Puma

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...
Now please listen what I am saying....
No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...

Wrong.

Post by Puma
Because GOD is the explanation of how we came out,,

Wrong

it might be

Post by Puma
religious or scientific or a special type of occurance,,,but in anycase
we all have an explanation of the existence.

Wrong.

Post by Puma
You have an explanation too,,,don`t you have one? So , whatever is your
explanation,then it is your GOD...

Don't have one because I don't care - No god.

[Puma]

Post by Robibnikoff

Post by Puma

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...
Now please listen what I am saying....
No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...

Wrong.

Post by Puma
Because GOD is the explanation of how we came out,,

Wrong
it might be

Post by Puma
religious or scientific or a special type of occurance,,,but in anycase
we all have an explanation of the existence.

Wrong.

Post by Puma
You have an explanation too,,,don`t you have one? So , whatever is your
explanation,then it is your GOD...

Don't have one because I don't care - No god.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

My dear Robi,


If you do not care you would not dare to discuss this much...Be
honest...YOUR GOD IS NO GOD....


Puma

[L. Raymond]

Post by Puma
YOUR GOD IS NO GOD....

Also her hair is radio, her height is purple and her favorite number
is nutmeg. It all makes sense now.

[Robibnikoff]

"Puma" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
snip

Post by Puma
My dear Robi,

Another idiot who can't spell

Post by Puma
If you do not care you would not dare to discuss this much...

Your mere opinion duly noted. Kindly do not speak for me.

Be

Post by Puma
honest...

Can't be anything but.

Post by Puma
YOUR GOD IS NO GOD....

Sorry, I don't have a god. Get over it - And yourself while you're at it.

[Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th]

Post by Robibnikoff
snip

Post by Puma
My dear Robi,

Another idiot who can't spell

Post by Puma
If you do not care you would not dare to discuss this much...

Your mere opinion duly noted. Kindly do not speak for me.
Be

Post by Puma
honest...

Can't be anything but.

Post by Puma
YOUR GOD IS NO GOD....

Sorry, I don't have a god. Get over it - And yourself while you're at it.

The theists seem to have this deep seated need for others to be like
themsleves. They are at a total loss and state of shock when someone
doesn't even accept their base presumptions.

Klazmon.

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th

Post by Robibnikoff
snip

Post by Puma
My dear Robi,

Another idiot who can't spell

Post by Puma
If you do not care you would not dare to discuss this much...

Your mere opinion duly noted. Kindly do not speak for me.
Be

Post by Puma
honest...

Can't be anything but.

Post by Puma
YOUR GOD IS NO GOD....

Sorry, I don't have a god. Get over it - And yourself while you're at it.

The theists seem to have this deep seated need for others to be like
themsleves. They are at a total loss and state of shock when someone
doesn't even accept their base presumptions.

Well, look how dumbfounded they become when they find out you don't believe
in their god - look like a bunch of slack-jawed idiots.

[Mark K. Bilbo]

Post by Puma

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the
oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left under
a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof, is
the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words we/I/science
doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it must have been a
god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is the most idiotic of
all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second logical fallacy. If
you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring an
explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not only
an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a theist
could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...
Now please listen what I am saying....
No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...
Because GOD is the explanation of how we came out,, it might be
religious or scientific or a special type of occurance,,,but in anycase
we all have an explanation of the existence.
You have an explanation too,,,don`t you have one? So , whatever is your
explanation,then it is your GOD...

Redefining "god" to mean anything and everything is a rather pointless
exercise...

[Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th]

Post by Puma

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of

people

Post by Puma

b

ase

their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in
it,

why

does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all
the oth

ers

are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...

In exactly the same way that Thor is the explanation for thunder or
fairies are the explanation for children finding that a tooth left
under a
pillow gets replaced by money. Your reasoning, or rather lack thereof,
is the logical fallacy of "appeal to ignorance". In other words
we/I/science doesn't know or can't explain phenomena X therefore it
must have been a god of the religion you happen to believe in. It is
the most idiotic of all non sequiturs. Furthermore it is also a second
logical fallacy. If you
need to posit a god to explain existance, then you are even more at a
loss
to explain how a god came about. You are exempting god from requiring
an explanation, an error called "special pleading". Your claim is not
only an
appeal to ignorance but a special pleading fallacy as well. Only a
theist could mange to fit two logical fallacies into a seven word
sentence.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>

Hi L.Klazmon,

From your sentences it is obvious that you have prejudgments...You are

not listeing others. Because only you are the one who is right...

What prejudjements. I responded pointing out the logical errors in your
assertions. If you don't like it, too bad. This is a public forum.

Post by Puma
Now please listen what I am saying....
No matter who you are,,you might be even an atheist,,,but you have a
GOD notion...

Only knowledge of the god notions explained to me by theists. I have found
none of them convincing.

Post by Puma
Because GOD is the explanation of how we came out,, it might be
religious or scientific or a special type of occurance,

A god may be "an" explanation but certainly not "the" explanation. For an
explanation to be any good it must be in agreement with reality. Calling a
scientific explanation a god renders the term god meaningless. An
explanation for my house coming into existence is that it was constructed a
group of builders. According to your definition of a god, a group of
builders constructing a house, is a god. See the idiocy of your claim is
demonstrated by a form of reductio ad absurbum.

Post by Puma
,,but in anycase
we all have an explanation of the existence.

Really. My explanation is that I don't know the ultimate cause of
existence, or even if it is a meaningful question. So according to you "I
don't know" is a god. As I said in my previous post, proposing an
explanation founded on "I don't know" is an appeal to ignorance. Why not
just say you don't know, instead of making up bullshit. The theists aren't
even really fooling themselves.

Post by Puma
You have an explanation too,,,don`t you have one? So , whatever is your
explanation,then it is your GOD...

See above.

Post by Puma
I hope now you do deem over it...

Care to write that in English?

Klazmon.

Post by Puma
With compassion,
Puma

[Uncle Vic]

Post by Puma
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...

This is just a jumble of claims. Can you back just one of them up with
some evidence?

The truth is, we don't know exactly how life on earth began. I'm fine to
leave it at that until we actually know, rather than make a big dumb guess
and then try to force everyone else on the planet to believe it too.

[Puma]

Post by Uncle Vic

Post by Puma
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...

This is just a jumble of claims. Can you back just one of them up with
some evidence?
============================================================
The truth is, we don't know exactly how life on earth began. I'm fine to
leave it at that until we actually know, rather than make a big dumb guess
and then try to force everyone else on the planet to believe it too.

=============================================================>

Very good,,,

Evidence is our existence....We all know it because we are here...

So whatever is the explanation of it it is the ntion of GOD....

No matter what you are an ateist or a scientist or any special
explanator...

We all have it... We all have a GOD notion...You have it too...

With compassion,

Puma

Post by Uncle Vic
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Puma

Post by Puma
Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the
religions monopolises God in their way...And all of them are
wrong!!! because all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an
explanation of our existence.
Thats it...

This is just a jumble of claims. Can you back just one of them up
with some evidence?
============================================================
The truth is, we don't know exactly how life on earth began. I'm
fine to leave it at that until we actually know, rather than make a
big dumb guess and then try to force everyone else on the planet to
believe it too.

=============================================================>
Very good,,,
Evidence is our existence....We all know it because we are here...

Argument from Personal Incredulity

Post by Puma
So whatever is the explanation of it it is the ntion of GOD....
No matter what you are an ateist or a scientist or any special
explanator...
We all have it... We all have a GOD notion...You have it too...

Is that like a walky-talky or something?

[Michael Gray]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

--

[Puma]

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Hi Michael,

I try to make it COHERENT...

In order to understand each other, we need to talk on the same basis...

Then the first point is WHAT GOD IS?

According to religions GOD is the CREATOR...

According to science it is the evolution...

According to somebody else, there may be some other explanation of our
existence...

When an explanation is needed in order to solve our existence a sort of
thoughts ,notions, ideas come out...

Therefore it can easily be said that no matter who you are weather an
ateist,or a religious person, or agnostic,,, you have an explanation of
the existence of this universe...

Thatis your GOD...

With compassion,

Puma

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Hi Michael,
I try to make it COHERENT...
In order to understand each other, we need to talk on the same basis...
Then the first point is WHAT GOD IS?

Part of SOMEBODY ELSE'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT WE WOULDN'T GIVE A
FLYING FUCK ABOUT IF THEY HAD THE COMMON SENSE TO KEEP IT TO
THEMSELVES.

Was that loud enough and clear enough even for you?

Post by Puma
According to religions GOD is the CREATOR...
According to science it is the evolution...

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Post by Puma
According to somebody else, there may be some other explanation of our
existence...
When an explanation is needed in order to solve our existence a sort of
thoughts ,notions, ideas come out...
Therefore it can easily be said that no matter who you are weather an
ateist,or a religious person, or agnostic,,, you have an explanation of
the existence of this universe...

No, moron - we simply follow where the evidence leads.

Post by Puma
Thatis your GOD...

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Why not try to say something with intelligence for a change?

Post by Puma
Puma

[howdydave]

Howdy!

Everybody seems to be focusing on the word "GOD."

In order to find "the real God" a person first has to
find REALITY.

Dave

[Uncle Vic]

Post by howdydave
Howdy!
Everybody seems to be focusing on the word "GOD."
In order to find "the real God" a person first has to
find REALITY.
Dave

Open your eyes. Bingo.

[Michael Gray]

Post by howdydave
Howdy!
Everybody seems to be focusing on the word "GOD."
In order to find "the real God" a person first has to
find REALITY.

Wake up, then.
Then realise that the concept of "gods" is merely infantile wishing.
Then grow up.
It's easy.

--

[Puma]

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Hi Michael,
I try to make it COHERENT...
In order to understand each other, we need to talk on the same basis...
Then the first point is WHAT GOD IS?

Part of SOMEBODY ELSE'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT WE WOULDN'T GIVE A
FLYING FUCK ABOUT IF THEY HAD THE COMMON SENSE TO KEEP IT TO
THEMSELVES.
Was that loud enough and clear enough even for you?

Post by Puma
According to religions GOD is the CREATOR...
According to science it is the evolution...

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Post by Puma
According to somebody else, there may be some other explanation of our
existence...
When an explanation is needed in order to solve our existence a sort of
thoughts ,notions, ideas come out...
Therefore it can easily be said that no matter who you are weather an
ateist,or a religious person, or agnostic,,, you have an explanation of
the existence of this universe...

No, moron - we simply follow where the evidence leads.

Okey then your GOD is evidence but you do not know it////

MORON , IDIOT, LIAR do you think it suitsyour goodselve???

Please be nice and smart...


With compassion,
Puma

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma
Thatis your GOD...

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Why not try to say something with intelligence for a change?

Post by Puma
Puma

[Christopher A. Lee]

Post by Puma

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Hi Michael,
I try to make it COHERENT...
In order to understand each other, we need to talk on the same basis...
Then the first point is WHAT GOD IS?

Part of SOMEBODY ELSE'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT WE WOULDN'T GIVE A
FLYING FUCK ABOUT IF THEY HAD THE COMMON SENSE TO KEEP IT TO
THEMSELVES.
Was that loud enough and clear enough even for you?

Post by Puma
According to religions GOD is the CREATOR...
According to science it is the evolution...

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Post by Puma
According to somebody else, there may be some other explanation of our
existence...
When an explanation is needed in order to solve our existence a sort of
thoughts ,notions, ideas come out...
Therefore it can easily be said that no matter who you are weather an
ateist,or a religious person, or agnostic,,, you have an explanation of
the existence of this universe...

No, moron - we simply follow where the evidence leads.

Okey then your GOD is evidence but you do not know it////

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
MORON , IDIOT, LIAR do you think it suitsyour goodselve???

Then dont be those.

Post by Puma
Please be nice and smart...

A hypocrite as well as a liar and an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Hardly.

Post by Puma
Puma

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma
Thatis your GOD...

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Why not try to say something with intelligence for a change?

Post by Puma
Puma

[Puma]

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Hi Michael,
I try to make it COHERENT...
In order to understand each other, we need to talk on the same basis...
Then the first point is WHAT GOD IS?

Part of SOMEBODY ELSE'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT WE WOULDN'T GIVE A
FLYING FUCK ABOUT IF THEY HAD THE COMMON SENSE TO KEEP IT TO
THEMSELVES.
Was that loud enough and clear enough even for you?

Post by Puma
According to religions GOD is the CREATOR...
According to science it is the evolution...

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Post by Puma
According to somebody else, there may be some other explanation of our
existence...
When an explanation is needed in order to solve our existence a sort of
thoughts ,notions, ideas come out...
Therefore it can easily be said that no matter who you are weather an
ateist,or a religious person, or agnostic,,, you have an explanation of
the existence of this universe...

No, moron - we simply follow where the evidence leads.

Okey then your GOD is evidence but you do not know it////

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
MORON , IDIOT, LIAR do you think it suitsyour goodselve???

Then dont be those.

Post by Puma
Please be nice and smart...

A hypocrite as well as a liar and an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Hardly.

Post by Puma
Puma

Post by Christopher A. Lee

Post by Puma
Thatis your GOD...

A liar as well as an idiot.

Post by Puma
With compassion,

Why not try to say something with intelligence for a change?

Post by Puma
Puma

Christ,

Be brave asto discuss with your logic,not with your sentiments... I see
how you feel when you are angry...But if you knew what a compassion is
then you would act accordingly...

Forget about myself,,,SELF is nothing actually...

You have a GOD no matter what you do to get rid of it...

You know this reality and that is why you are so angry..

But still you are very lovely, go and see your image on the mirror..

With compassion,

Puma

[Uncle Vic]

Post by Puma
You have a GOD no matter what you do to get rid of it...

No, we have a flying spaghetti monster, and guess what? SO DO YOU!!! No
matter how hard you postulate your imaginary god, the Flying Spaghetti
Monster cannot be denied. He is in you, as he is in each and every one of
us, whether you like it or not.

BOW DOWN, HERETIC!

You could be the next recipient of the feared divine meatball storm. Hope
you're hungry.

[Mark K. Bilbo]

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Don't hold your breath...

[Michael Gray]

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:20:52 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"

Post by Mark K. Bilbo

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma

Would you care to translate that into coherent English, please?

Don't hold your breath...

I'm not.
An excess of ellipses, coupled with the ga-ga whack-job groups that
are being cross-posted to, definitely points to a less than stable or
intellectually mature poster.

--

[Doc Smartass]

Subject: Where is the real God?

Where is the real Dick Tracy?

The real Darth Vader?

The real Bilbo Baggins?

The real Easter Bunny?

[Pastor Frank]

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....God is the explanation of the
existence
---------
Out of which holy script did you get that? Or is it just your very own,
personal and private definition?
We would rather believe the NT Bible, which says, that "God is love" (1
John 4:8,16) and that all how love and care (as Christ did) are in God as
God is in them. See below

Pastor Frank

1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

[bob young]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....God is the explanation of the
existence
---------
Out of which holy script did you get that? Or is it just your very own,
personal and private definition?
We would rather believe the NT Bible, which says, that "God is love" (1
John 4:8,16) and that all how love and care (as Christ did) are in God as
God is in them. See below

Your Great Grandppay used to believe in the OT too,

So what has changed?

The goal posts been moved yet again?

A myth is a lie and the truth will always out, given enough time, as shown by
the various changes and 'adjustments;' that Christians have found necessary to
make over the past two centuries.

A belief that cannot stand the test of time,
especially one that claims it's god created everything is, to put it mildly
- a joke

Post by Puma
Pastor Frank
1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[Iwas]

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

He said it thousands of years ago, bro.

Read the 1st Commandment, or his talk with Job, or his opening words to
Abraham or Moses. Brother I could go on. . . But I thinbk what you want is
for him to let YOU know in a way that YOU would deem reasonable. The God of
the Bible is GOD so to expect him to bow to your will is to make him less
than you. God>you, and yet he loves you. Why is that such a troubling
concept?

With Love, in Christ

[c***@optonline.net]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:03:38 -0500, "Iwas"

Post by Iwas

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

He said it thousands of years ago, bro.
Read the 1st Commandment, or his talk with Job, or his opening words to
Abraham or Moses. Brother I could go on. . . But I thinbk what you want is
for him to let YOU know in a way that YOU would deem reasonable. The God of
the Bible is GOD so to expect him to bow to your will is to make him less
than you. God>you, and yet he loves you. Why is that such a troubling
concept?

Demonstrate it exists outside your masturbatory fantasies to do any of
that, brainwashed moron.

Figments of your deluded imagination can't love anything. Why is that
such a troubling concept?

Post by Iwas
With Love, in Christ

His mouth or his ass?

[Ravi]

God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

Ravi

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma
Reply »

[c***@optonline.net]

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.

First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?

What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?

If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.

That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.

Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

[Puma]

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,

Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be? What is the
reason of it?

No brain wash, no prejudices,,Just tell me how!!!

Puma

[James Kilpatrick]

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

[Puma]

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

Hi James,

Ravi`s existence is due to the mating of Ravi`s parents but what is the
explanation of the existence behind those parents?

God thingy is the explanation of existence of any thingy...I do say
that however you explain
your existence it is GOD...

Did I make myself clear now?

Puma

[p***@hotmail.com]

Post by Puma

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

Hi James,
Ravi`s existence is due to the mating of Ravi`s parents but what is the
explanation of the existence behind those parents?
God thingy is the explanation of existence of any thingy...I do say
that however you explain
your existence it is GOD...

No, it is not, you dumb fuck. You've been told this numerous times now,
and still you lie about it. WHAT COLOR HAIR IS BALD IN YOUR LITTLE
WORLD?

Post by Puma
Did I make myself clear now?

You've clearly shown that you are a rude, lying, idiot.

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

[Puma]

Post by p***@hotmail.com

Post by Puma

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

Hi James,
Ravi`s existence is due to the mating of Ravi`s parents but what is the
explanation of the existence behind those parents?
God thingy is the explanation of existence of any thingy...I do say
that however you explain
your existence it is GOD...

No, it is not, you dumb fuck. You've been told this numerous times now,
and still you lie about it. WHAT COLOR HAIR IS BALD IN YOUR LITTLE
WORLD?

Post by Puma
Did I make myself clear now?

You've clearly shown that you are a rude, lying, idiot.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

Hi Panam,

It seems to me your God is a bad lingo then...

Puma

[p***@hotmail.com]

snip

Post by Puma
Hi Panam,
It seems to me your God is a bad lingo then...

Can you not read? I don't have any gods, you insipid moron. Why are so
many theists so fucking stupid?

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Puma

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

Hi James,
Ravi`s existence is due to the mating of Ravi`s parents but what is the
explanation of the existence behind those parents?

Ravi's grandparents. Duh.

[Michael Gray]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:18:19 -0800, "James Kilpatrick"

Post by James Kilpatrick

Post by Puma

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

Post by Ravi
Ravi

Well,,,Well,,,Well,,,
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be?

It isn't Ravi's existence that is in question here, the alleged existence of
your God thingy is, but Ravi came into existence due to the mating of Ravi's
mom and dad don't you think?

Don't ask Puma to think.
You may ask well ask it to punctuate properly, or even less plausible,
to become coherent.

(Esperanto as her primary language!! Fuck me, she's completely loopy!!
As well as a proven delusional liar)

--

[Robibnikoff]

"Puma" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message

snip

Post by Puma
Can you tell me how is your existence happened to be? What is the
reason of it?
No brain wash, no prejudices,,Just tell me how!!!

No problem. Two teenagers forgot the birthcontrol.

You?

[Pastor Frank]

Post by c***@optonline.net

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

A combination of dishonesty, question-begging and personal falsehood.
First of all, what the fuck is "God" meant to be?
What reason is there even to think about it if you weren't brainwashed
as a child, to believe in it as part of your parent' religion?
If you can't provide evidence for it then have the intelligence to
keep your deluded fantasies to yourself.
That way nobody will demand that you either put up or shut up.
Preferably the latter when you finally realise you can't do the former
- about something irrelevant to those in whose faces you stupidly rub
it.

You need to do a bit of reading of holy scripture, and that without
prejudice, to come to an understanding. Our NT Bible says, that "God is
love" (1 John 4:9,16) see below. it hardly needs elaboration, that love
needs to be experienced, and that no amount of explaining will suffice to
anyone who does not love.
Atheists on the whole do not love. They are too cynical and paranoid for
that, and quite unable to believe in anyone and/or have faith in another
person.

Pastor Frank

1Jn:4:8: He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

[Puma]

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.
Ravi

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.
Thats it...
Puma
Reply »

Hey Ravi,


You do not know what GOD is! Because you say that """GOD IS NOT SEEN""
but everybody sees the existence...There is nothing besides GOD...

God is the explanation of our existence.. That is it... Can`t you see
it?

Puma

[Michael Gray]

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

:

Rubbish.
I don't believe in this undefined "god" of which you speak, and find
the explanation that it just doesn't exist outside of uneducated human
imaginations perfectly satisfactory, entirely plausible, and 100%
"possible".

You are talking out of your backside.

--

[Puma]

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

Rubbish.
I don't believe in this undefined "god" of which you speak, and find
the explanation that it just doesn't exist outside of uneducated human
imaginations perfectly satisfactory, entirely plausible, and 100%
"possible".
You are talking out of your backside.
Hi Michael,

Please do not mix things ,,, we do not not argue our personalities
here,, I am trying to make it clear that every body has a GOD
notion,,,ateists also have their GODS,,,but they might have given a
different name to it ,it might be a scientific explanation, or a
religious, or an agnostic,, but they all HAVE a GOD NOTION....Because
every body has to know how this existence happened to be...This
explanation is your GOD...You know it , therefore you need not belive
in it...Believers donot know it...This is the other view of the
TRUTH...

You know this truth ,, your unconscious also knows it but you are
trying to tell me the other way around...I very well understand your
view...

You are a very lovely person,,,

With compassion,

Puma

[p***@hotmail.com]

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

Rubbish.
I don't believe in this undefined "god" of which you speak, and find
the explanation that it just doesn't exist outside of uneducated human
imaginations perfectly satisfactory, entirely plausible, and 100%
"possible".
You are talking out of your backside.
Hi Michael,

Please do not mix things ,,, we do not not argue our personalities
here,, I am trying to make it clear that every body has a GOD
notion,,,ateists also have their GODS,,,but they might have given a
different name to it

Ignorant putz. Just because *you* can't understand it isn't a god
doesn't mean that it actually *is*. You've been told that you're wrong
several times now by real, live atheists. And yet you continue to howl
your insanity at us. "A different name to it?" Give it a rest. It's not
our fault that you lack the ability to understand. I do not believe in
a god. I have no need to replace it with something else. Whether or not
gods exist would not be important, except for the behavior of the
morons who believe they do.

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

[Puma]

Post by p***@hotmail.com

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

Rubbish.
I don't believe in this undefined "god" of which you speak, and find
the explanation that it just doesn't exist outside of uneducated human
imaginations perfectly satisfactory, entirely plausible, and 100%
"possible".
You are talking out of your backside.
Hi Michael,

Please do not mix things ,,, we do not not argue our personalities
here,, I am trying to make it clear that every body has a GOD
notion,,,ateists also have their GODS,,,but they might have given a
different name to it

Ignorant putz. Just because *you* can't understand it isn't a god
doesn't mean that it actually *is*. You've been told that you're wrong
several times now by real, live atheists. And yet you continue to howl
your insanity at us. "A different name to it?" Give it a rest. It's not
our fault that you lack the ability to understand. I do not believe in
a god. I have no need to replace it with something else. Whether or not
gods exist would not be important, except for the behavior of the
morons who believe they do.

Hi Panam,

I see that your GODs are MORONS then...

Puma

[p***@hotmail.com]

Post by Puma

Post by p***@hotmail.com

Post by Puma

Post by Michael Gray

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.

Rubbish.
I don't believe in this undefined "god" of which you speak, and find
the explanation that it just doesn't exist outside of uneducated human
imaginations perfectly satisfactory, entirely plausible, and 100%
"possible".
You are talking out of your backside.
Hi Michael,

Please do not mix things ,,, we do not not argue our personalities
here,, I am trying to make it clear that every body has a GOD
notion,,,ateists also have their GODS,,,but they might have given a
different name to it

Ignorant putz. Just because *you* can't understand it isn't a god
doesn't mean that it actually *is*. You've been told that you're wrong
several times now by real, live atheists. And yet you continue to howl
your insanity at us. "A different name to it?" Give it a rest. It's not
our fault that you lack the ability to understand. I do not believe in
a god. I have no need to replace it with something else. Whether or not
gods exist would not be important, except for the behavior of the
morons who believe they do.

Hi Panam,
I see that your GODs are MORONS then...

I have no gods. Have you not understood what everyone has said? Or are
you just another moronic piece of shit here to insult people?

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

[Robibnikoff]

"Puma" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
snip

Post by Puma
Please do not mix things ,,, we do not not argue our personalities
here,, I am trying to make it clear that every body has a GOD
notion,,,

Sorry, but you're wrong.

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.
Ravi
------------------
That is certainly true. ....yet we are to witness Christ, our God incarnate
and His "good news" to all. Notice atheists always and only have "bad news".

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Ravi

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

God is God. What else can be God?

Pumpernickel is pumpernickel. What else can be pumpernickel?

Post by Ravi
God is not seen.

Of course not. To *not* make this claim would be to admit that your god
doesn't really exist. Making him invisible adds to the faith factor, and
if you have no faith, you go straight to hell. Right, padre?

Post by Ravi
God is to be
experienced.

Of course, and to inform your peers that you have not experienced "God"
is the same as being a peasant who cannot see the Emperor's New Clothes.
You desperately need to be accepted into the Christian crowd, so you are
willing to accept anything they say, even attest to it. You dumb fuck.

Post by Ravi
There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.
Ravi
------------------
That is certainly true. ....yet we are to witness Christ, our God
incarnate and His "good news" to all. Notice atheists always and only
have "bad news".

Please present evidence for this god and his child and his holy what-the-
fuck, and we'll talk about whether it is good news. Until then, fuck the
hell off.

[Puma]

Post by Ravi

Post by Puma

There are close to a thousand different God beliefs. Millions of people base
their lives on their different God beliefs.
If there is any real God that created the Universe and everything in it, why
does he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the REAL God and all the others
are fakes?
We're waiting!

Hi Bill,

I am sorry Pastor,

But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real God
you know...

Puma

Post by Ravi

Post by Puma
First of all what GOD is should be known....
God is the explanation of the existence...If you look at God from a
religious point,,,you can not find GOD...Because all of the religions
monopolises God in their way...And all of them are wrong!!! because
all of them are human made...
God can not be belonged to any religion....God is only an explanation
of our existence.

God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced. There is a saying: "For those who believe in God, no
explnanation is necessary; for those who do not, not explanation in
possible'.
Ravi
------------------
That is certainly true. ....yet we are to witness Christ, our God incarnate
and His "good news" to all. Notice atheists always and only have "bad news".
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Puma
I am sorry Pastor,
But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real God
you know...
Puma

I didn't say Christ is God. I said Christ is our Christian God
incarnate. Meaning Christ is God come in the flesh and is therefore the
"real God" you are looking for. The un-incarnate God of Christ is a Spirit
which must be served in spirit and in truth. See below quote of Christ.

Pastor Frank

Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Puma
I am sorry Pastor,
But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real
God you know...
Puma

I didn't say Christ is God.

Oh, so Christ isn't god.

Post by Pastor Frank
I said Christ is our Christian God
incarnate. Meaning Christ is God

Oh, so Christ *is* god. Make up your mind already!

Post by Pastor Frank
come in the flesh and is therefore
the "real God" you are looking for. The un-incarnate God of Christ is
a Spirit which must be served in spirit and in truth. See below quote
of Christ.

Is your head spinning yet, Puma?

[Uncle Vic]

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank
Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."

See, you have to turn into a ghost. But not just any ghost. You have to
become a True ghost.

[Scott Richter]

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank
Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."

See, you have to turn into a ghost. But not just any ghost. You have to
become a True ghost.

The Ghostest with the Mostest...

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Scott Richter

Post by Uncle Vic
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Frank

Post by Pastor Frank
Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."

See, you have to turn into a ghost. But not just any ghost. You have to
become a True ghost.

The Ghostest with the Mostest...

That must be the immature definition of "Spirit" I have come across in
a long time. See below at least a dozen possible definition and try pick the
one which describes the Christian God best. And no, its not alcohol, nor a
sprite.

Pastor Frank

spir·it

spir·it (spir'it) noun

1. a. The vital principle or animating force within living beings. b.
Incorporeal consciousness.

2. The soul, considered as departing from the body of a person at death.

3. Spirit The Holy Spirit.

4. Spirit Christian Science. God.

5. A supernatural being, as: a. An angel or a demon. b. A being inhabiting
or embodying a particular place, object, or natural phenomenon. c. A fairy
or sprite.

6. a. The part of a human being associated with the mind, will, and
feelings: Though unable to join us today, they are with us in spirit. b. The
essential nature of a person or group.

7. A person as characterized by a stated quality: He is a proud spirit.

8. a. An inclination or a tendency of a specified kind: Her actions show a
generous spirit. b. A causative, activating, or essential principle: The
couple's engagement was announced in a joyous spirit.

9. spirits A mood or an emotional state: The guests were in high spirits.
His sour spirits put a damper on the gathering.

10. A particular mood or an emotional state characterized by vigor and
animation: sang with spirit.

11. Strong loyalty or dedication: team spirit.

12. The predominant mood of an occasion or a period: "The spirit of 1776 is
not dead" (Thomas Jefferson).

13. The actual though unstated sense or significance of something: the
spirit of the law.

14. Often spirits
(used with a sing. verb) An alcohol solution of an essential or volatile
substance.

15. spirits An alcoholic beverage, especially distilled liquor.


verb, transitive
spir·it·ed, spir·it·ing, spir·its


1. To carry off mysteriously or secretly: The documents had been spirited
away.

2. To impart courage, animation, or determination to; inspirit.




[Middle English, from Old French espirit, from Latin spiritus, breath, from
spirare, to breathe.]

[Puma]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Puma
I am sorry Pastor,
But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real God
you know...
Puma

I didn't say Christ is God. I said Christ is our Christian God
incarnate. Meaning Christ is God come in the flesh and is therefore the
"real God" you are looking for. The un-incarnate God of Christ is a Spirit
which must be served in spirit and in truth. See below quote of Christ.
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Jn:4:24: "GOD IS A SPIRIT, and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth."

My dear Pastor,

TRUTH is such a REALITY that everyone shall realise it...Forinstance
The sun is an example, even the blind people know it...

Christ is not a truth, as he only is a sun of God for Christians...

Please be mindful not faithful... Because faith does not show the
truth.
ONLY knowledge shows the thruth..

With compassion,

Puma

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Puma

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Puma
I am sorry Pastor,
But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real God
you know...
Puma

I didn't say Christ is God. I said Christ is our Christian God
incarnate. Meaning Christ is God come in the flesh and is therefore the
"real God" you are looking for. The un-incarnate God of Christ is a Spirit
which must be served in spirit and in truth. See below quote of Christ.

My dear Pastor,
TRUTH is such a REALITY that everyone shall realise it...Forinstance
The sun is an example, even the blind people know it...
Christ is not a truth, as he only is a sun of God for Christians...
Please be mindful not faithful... Because faith does not show the
truth. ONLY knowledge shows the thruth..
With compassion,
Puma

Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge of the
world, and still live in hell.

[anon]

Post by Pastor Frank
Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge of
the world, and still live in hell.

true, true... though knowledge has different connotations in eastern
traditions.

[Pastor Frank]

Post by anon

Post by Pastor Frank
Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge of
the world, and still live in hell.

true, true... though knowledge has different connotations in eastern
traditions.

So what? In ancient Semitic scripture to know someone, means sexual
relations.

[anon]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by anon

Post by Pastor Frank
Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge of
the world, and still live in hell.

true, true... though knowledge has different connotations in eastern
traditions.

So what? In ancient Semitic scripture to know someone, means sexual
relations.

your reply was to puma where the word "knowledge" was mentioned. (S)he is
using "knowledge" in an (apparently) eastern context, and you are apparently
critizing a different meaning. unless you are criticizing the eastern
meaning ....

[Pastor Frank]

Post by anon

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by anon

Post by Pastor Frank
Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge
of the world, and still live in hell.

true, true... though knowledge has different connotations in eastern
traditions.

So what? In ancient Semitic scripture to know someone, means sexual
relations.

your reply was to puma where the word "knowledge" was mentioned. (S)he is
using "knowledge" in an (apparently) eastern context, and you are
apparently critizing a different meaning. unless you are criticizing the
eastern meaning ....

You fail to explain what you mean by "different meaning" of the word
"knowledge" is in the Eastern context. Reminds me of the role of the word
"shit" in one of the world's religious philosophies. See below

Pastor Frank

Unitarians: We don't know what this Shit is, or if we even believe in
it, and we can't explain it to anyone else, but we're nice people and
we'll share our shit with anyone who's as vague as we are.

[Scott Richter]

Post by Pastor Frank
Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what.

Uh huh... So, what's stopping you?

Post by Pastor Frank
This principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else.

Tell us something we *don't* know.

Post by Pastor Frank
You can have all the knowledge of the world, and still live in hell.

You can have all the godliness of the world, and still live in hell --
especially if you're into male hookers and crystal meth...

[Puma]

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Puma

Post by Pastor Frank

Post by Puma
I am sorry Pastor,
But Christ is only your God not others,,,we are looking for a real God
you know...
Puma

I didn't say Christ is God. I said Christ is our Christian God
incarnate. Meaning Christ is God come in the flesh and is therefore the
"real God" you are looking for. The un-incarnate God of Christ is a Spirit
which must be served in spirit and in truth. See below quote of Christ.

My dear Pastor,
TRUTH is such a REALITY that everyone shall realise it...Forinstance
The sun is an example, even the blind people know it...
Christ is not a truth, as he only is a sun of God for Christians...
Please be mindful not faithful... Because faith does not show the
truth. ONLY knowledge shows the thruth..
With compassion,
Puma

Christ is about love and care and being humane no matter what. This
principle has nothing in common with "knowledge", nor logic, reason,
objective evidence, nor anything else. You can have all the knowledge of the
world, and still live in hell.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

My dear Pastor,

I have a simple question . If Christ has nothing in common with
"KNOWLEDGE" from where do you know about Christ? In other words if
KNOWLEDGe was not important\you would not know Christ at all!!!

PLEASE BE MINDFULL, NOT FAITHFULL, as faith is nothing but knowledge is
the real
GURU...

With compassion,

Puma

[Robibnikoff]

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced.

Yeah, right. Based on what evidence?

[Pastor Frank]

Post by Robibnikoff

Post by Ravi
God is God. What else can be God? God is not seen. God is to be
experienced.

Yeah, right. Based on what evidence?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

You were just told!!! The evidence is in the experience. Or doesn't that
count, Poo?