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The case for believing in god?
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Bill
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The case for believing in god?



There is absolutely no logic or objective verifiable evidence to prove and
support god beliefs and a glorious life after death.



The miniscule percent of people who have claimed personal contact with any
God are those who are mentally delusional or who obtain selfish personal
gains from claiming these contacts. There is absolutely no objective
verifiable evidence that any of these so called "God contacts" were real.
And of the thousands of gods, which ones were contacted?



Why does god not permit dead mothers, fathers, relatives and friends to
communicate with

us and verify the existence of a this real god and real heaven?



There are literally thousands of god beliefs and religions.

If one of these gods is the real god who created the Universe, why does he
not directly communicate with all of mankind and show us he is the real god
and all the others are fakes?



Man can directly communicate essentially with the whole world via TV, the
Internet, Phones and Radio. If there is a real God, why does he not announce
to the whole world, from his heaven, that he is the real God and all the
others are fakes. And tell us clearly and directly what he expects from us
instead of using hundreds of vague, ancient and contradictory documents
compiled by dozens of different religions.



Why does he instead allow thousands of errant men and religions to explain
these things in vague and contradictory terms? Why does he use errant, self
interested and confusing men to send his messages to his flock? Why does he
permit all this doubt and confusion?



There are many different religions and literally thousands of God beliefs.
There are major religions such as Judaism, Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus,
Muslims, Shintoists, Confusions, Christian Scientists, Mormons, Protestants,
Catholics, Evangelicists, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc. etc.



There are a plentitude of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are true?



Some major sacred texts and documents;



Baha'i Sacrid writtings

Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon

The Bible - Christian religious documents -There are 18 English versions
alone.

No originals of the Bibles exist. They are all hand copies of copies of
copies etc. made by errant men with self interest motives.

The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints

The Analects - Confuscianism

The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs

Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome over the centuries

Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism

Qur'an - Islam

The Tanakh - Jewism

Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism

Nag Hammadi - Gnostics

Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong



Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? Non of these documents are objective evidence.
They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further copied,
over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal motivations.
Almost all of the documents were written before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of them. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of history, myth,
folklore and legends promulgated by self interested people.



It appears that god did not create man, but quite the contrary, that man
created gods!



The following is a list of historical gods. Which one, if any, is authentic
and real and what is the objective verifiable evidence? And why does any
real god permit so many false gods before him?



Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus,
Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen,
Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim
Eshu,
Ereshkigal,
Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel,
Hephaestus,
Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar,
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius,
Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn,
Set,
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta,
Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus.



African gods:

Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]


Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]


Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]


Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]



Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]



Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]



Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]



Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]



Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]


Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]


Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]


Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]

Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]


Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]

Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]

Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]


Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]

Zin [Water]

Table of Asian Gods:

BUDDHIST

Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]

Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]

Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]

Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]

Fudo [WIsdom]

Guan Yin [bodhisattva]

Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]

Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]

Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]

Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]

Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]

Locana [?]

Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]

Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]

Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]

Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]

Usnisavijaya [?]

Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]

We-to [Divine General]

Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]

Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]

CHINESE GODS

Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]

Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]

Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]

Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]

Erh-Lang [Guardian]

Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]

Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]

Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]

I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]

K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]

Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]

Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]

Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]

O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]

Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]

Ran-deng [Future Buddha]

San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]

T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]

Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]


Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]

Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]

Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]

[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]


Finnish Gods:


Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]

Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]

Hiisi [Forest/Evil]

Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]

Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]

Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]

Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]

Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]

Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]

Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]

Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]

Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]

Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]

Rauni [?]

Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]

Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]

Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]

Waralden Olmai [World]

JAPANESE GODS


Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]

Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]

Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]

Daikoku [Wealth]

Ebisu [Labor]

Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]

Gozu-Tenno [Plague]

Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]

Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]

Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]

Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]

Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]

O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]

Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]

Sae-No-Kami [Roads]

Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]

Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and
Food]
Uzume [Mirth]

Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]

Yabune [House]

Zocho [South]

Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]

Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]

Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]

Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]

Fujin [Wind]

Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]

Kami [Idols]

SOUTH ASIAN GODS

Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]

Debata [?]

Empung Luminuut [?]

Hainuwele [?]

Hananim [Sky]

Hmin [Ague]

Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]

Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]

Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]

Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]

Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]

Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]

Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]

Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]

Upulevo [Sun]

Wunekau [Sun]

CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS

Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]

Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]

Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]

Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]

En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]

Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]

Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]

Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]

Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]

Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]

Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]

Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]

Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]

Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]

Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]

Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]

Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]

Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]

Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]

Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]

Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]

Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]

Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]

We [Supreme]

Xhindi [Spirits]

Yarilo [Love]

Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]



SIBERIAN GODS

Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]

Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]

K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]

Mayin [Supreme]

Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]

Shurdi [Thunderstorms]

Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]

Xucau [Supreme]

Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
Bible Studies with Satan
2005-06-28 18:49:23 UTC
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Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
Heathens need invisible friends.
--
God did not need to work miracles to convince atheists but to convert heathens.
-- Sir Francis Bacon
unknown
2005-06-29 01:07:00 UTC
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Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
If you do not, we have to kill you.

In Christ Jesus
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
bckwrds
2005-06-29 02:55:59 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
If you do not, we have to kill you.
In Christ Jesus
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
your response is a joke, right?
unknown
2005-06-29 23:04:27 UTC
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Post by bckwrds
Post by unknown
Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
If you do not, we have to kill you.
your response is a joke, right?
I should hope so. Just because it's in The Bible, does not make it part of
Christianity, somehow.
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
Knight in the order of the Cross
2005-07-05 13:42:57 UTC
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as a christian soldier
i can tell you theres no place in G'ds word that tells you to kill non
beleavers more so G'd says to leave them be hind so he will deal with them


-Knight
Post by unknown
Post by bckwrds
Post by unknown
Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
If you do not, we have to kill you.
your response is a joke, right?
I should hope so. Just because it's in The Bible, does not make it part of
Christianity, somehow.
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
unknown
2005-07-06 16:37:20 UTC
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Post by Knight in the order of the Cross
as a christian soldier
i can tell you theres no place in G'ds word that tells you
to kill non beleavers more so G'd says to leave them be hind
so he will deal with them
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or
the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice
thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods . . . thou shalt
surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death,
and afterwards the hand of all the people . . . If thou shalt hear . . .
Certain men . . . have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying,
Let us go and serve other gods . . . Thou shalt surely smite the
inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it
utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge
of the sword" (Deuteronomy13:6-15).

"He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be
utterly destroyed" (Exodus 22:20). "If thou shalt hear say . . . Certain
men . . . saying, Let us go and serve other gods . . . Thou shalt surely
smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying
it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the
edge of the sword" (Deuteronomy 13:12-15). "That whosoever would not seek
the Lord God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great,
whether man or woman" (2 Chronicles 15:13).

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak . . . because
thou believest not my words" (Luke 1:20). "And immediately the angel of
the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten
of worms, and gave up the ghost" (Acts 12:23).

In Christ
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
Chris
2005-07-06 22:24:30 UTC
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Of course I believe in God and follow the teachings of Jesus. But killing
is always wrong there is no just reason for killing, even in war. However
the Bible does make it clear that if there is no alternative, killing in
self defence is forgivable. There are no specific passages by Jesus that
condone killing.

However in another version of the godspel by St James, Jesus brother, there
are references to Jesus killing as a revenge or punishment like he was a
real tearaway with supernatural powers and terrorised his village until
Zaccarius took him in hand and taught him the Jewish religion.

A lot of your quotation is from the old testament before the new covenant of
Jesus was given and really we should not use information from the old
testament.

I really don't think killing anyone for any reason is the proper thing to
do. "Thou shalt not Kill"

I have seen a very vicious killing carried out by christians on a young
woman who had no wrong and was a Christian herself. Her murder is a
complete mystery to me.

I've also had a freind killed as a traitor but really she had done nothing
nor had any particularly exteme political views. And I have seen a 17 year
old girl found guilty of treason after a 2 minute hearing where some very
wooly and confused socialist philosophy was listened to and then she was
tied to a chair and summarily shot by an executioner dressed in a special
royal uniform. Are we living in the stone age?

However it is not only christians who murder. I've seen a street party
attack an asian girl and knife her. And a knifing at a funfair. We've had
a girl knifed just down the road from me on her way to school and her
younger sister was inconsolable.

Man is a vicious killer and more killing will make no improvement, the world
has turned into a madhouse with so many people a loggerheads with one
another.

I hope Jesus will soon come and sort it out.

I do try to follow Jesus.
Pastor Dave
2005-07-07 12:07:13 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:24:30 GMT, "Chris"
Post by Chris
Of course I believe in God and follow the teachings of Jesus. But killing
is always wrong there is no just reason for killing, even in war. However
the Bible does make it clear that if there is no alternative, killing in
self defence is forgivable. There are no specific passages by Jesus that
condone killing.
However in another version of the godspel by St James, Jesus brother, there
are references to Jesus killing as a revenge or punishment like he was a
real tearaway with supernatural powers and terrorised his village until
Zaccarius took him in hand and taught him the Jewish religion.
A lot of your quotation is from the old testament before the new covenant of
Jesus was given and really we should not use information from the old
testament.
Really? So just throw it away? How convenient
for you. It's too bad for you, that Jesus and the
Apostles preached from the Old Testament.
--
Pastor Dave

Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
Bill
2005-07-09 00:54:49 UTC
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They should all be treated as books of myths and nonsense which is what they
are.
Post by Pastor Dave
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:24:30 GMT, "Chris"
Post by Chris
Of course I believe in God and follow the teachings of Jesus. But killing
is always wrong there is no just reason for killing, even in war. However
the Bible does make it clear that if there is no alternative, killing in
self defence is forgivable. There are no specific passages by Jesus that
condone killing.
However in another version of the godspel by St James, Jesus brother, there
are references to Jesus killing as a revenge or punishment like he was a
real tearaway with supernatural powers and terrorised his village until
Zaccarius took him in hand and taught him the Jewish religion.
A lot of your quotation is from the old testament before the new covenant of
Jesus was given and really we should not use information from the old
testament.
Really? So just throw it away? How convenient
for you. It's too bad for you, that Jesus and the
Apostles preached from the Old Testament.
--
Pastor Dave
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
unknown
2005-07-09 06:02:03 UTC
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Post by Bill
They should all be treated as books of myths
and nonsense which is what they are.
You will not think that when we shoot you for being liberal homosexual
atheist agnostic humanist trash.

"If a man also lieth with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their
blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
unknown
2005-07-07 16:49:48 UTC
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Post by Chris
There are no specific passages
by Jesus that condone killing.
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).

That is the reason for Broomleigh, and why I try to expose them and Mr
Richard Frank "Dick" Foot.
Post by Chris
I really don't think killing anyone for any reason
is the proper thing to do. "Thou shalt not Kill"
Neither do I, but the commandment is "thou shalt do no murder."
Post by Chris
I have seen a very vicious killing carried out by christians
on a young woman who had no wrong and was a Christian herself.
Her murder is a complete mystery to me.
Perhaps she had told the truth about "people" like Richard Dick Foot and
Keith Exford stealing money from the poor, claiming it is recovered
stolen money, and putting in their own pockets?
Post by Chris
However it is not only christians who murder.
I tell people Islam is a threat. Today, they know; yesterday I was
nutter, and tomorrow they will start to forget.
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-07 02:20:08 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Knight in the order of the Cross
as a christian soldier
i can tell you theres no place in G'ds word that tells you
to kill non beleavers more so G'd says to leave them be hind
so he will deal with them
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
That coming from a penniless itinerant preacher who has "no place to lay
his head" (Mt 8:20), would prove Him quite mad, either that or the person
who quotes and accuses Him of violent intention, is insane.
Which is it? Considering Jesus is respected and you merely want to be,
most would likely give him the benefit of the doubt, don't you think?
unknown
2005-07-07 16:58:59 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Considering Jesus is respected and you merely
want to be, most would likely give him the benefit
of the doubt, don't you think?
I think I agree with Confucius.

"In war, it's not who's right that counts, it's who's left."
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
Chris
2005-07-03 07:35:35 UTC
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Hello,

In that case you are a murderer. The church has murdered many a
disbeliever. Jesus is not known for his murders.

It appears that the Church has sinnned.

Chris.
Post by unknown
Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
If you do not, we have to kill you.
In Christ Jesus
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
unknown
2005-07-03 23:09:29 UTC
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Post by Chris
In that case you are a murderer.
No. Murder is unlawful killing. Broomleigh killings are lawful.
Post by Chris
Jesus is not known for his murders.
"And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God
the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost" (Acts 12:23).

As you can see, by following the Broomleigh principle of killing opponents,
the Church is entirely Christian, and entirely Broomleigh.

Praise be to God and the Broomleigh founder Mr Keith P Exford for the
restoration of killing.
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
bckwrds
2005-06-29 02:57:40 UTC
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I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.

I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.

Donna
Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
There is absolutely no logic or objective verifiable evidence to prove and
support god beliefs and a glorious life after death.
The miniscule percent of people who have claimed personal contact with any
God are those who are mentally delusional or who obtain selfish personal
gains from claiming these contacts. There is absolutely no objective
verifiable evidence that any of these so called "God contacts" were real.
And of the thousands of gods, which ones were contacted?
Why does god not permit dead mothers, fathers, relatives and friends to
communicate with
us and verify the existence of a this real god and real heaven?
There are literally thousands of god beliefs and religions.
If one of these gods is the real god who created the Universe, why does he
not directly communicate with all of mankind and show us he is the real god
and all the others are fakes?
Man can directly communicate essentially with the whole world via TV, the
Internet, Phones and Radio. If there is a real God, why does he not announce
to the whole world, from his heaven, that he is the real God and all the
others are fakes. And tell us clearly and directly what he expects from us
instead of using hundreds of vague, ancient and contradictory documents
compiled by dozens of different religions.
Why does he instead allow thousands of errant men and religions to explain
these things in vague and contradictory terms? Why does he use errant, self
interested and confusing men to send his messages to his flock? Why does he
permit all this doubt and confusion?
There are many different religions and literally thousands of God beliefs.
There are major religions such as Judaism, Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus,
Muslims, Shintoists, Confusions, Christian Scientists, Mormons, Protestants,
Catholics, Evangelicists, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc. etc.
There are a plentitude of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are true?
Some major sacred texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents -There are 18 English versions
alone.
No originals of the Bibles exist. They are all hand copies of copies of
copies etc. made by errant men with self interest motives.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome over the centuries
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
The Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? Non of these documents are objective evidence.
They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further copied,
over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal motivations.
Almost all of the documents were written before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of them. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of history, myth,
folklore and legends promulgated by self interested people.
It appears that god did not create man, but quite the contrary, that man
created gods!
The following is a list of historical gods. Which one, if any, is authentic
and real and what is the objective verifiable evidence? And why does any
real god permit so many false gods before him?
Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus,
Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen,
Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim
Eshu,
Ereshkigal,
Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel,
Hephaestus,
Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar,
Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai,
Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius,
Morrigan,
Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun,
Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto,
Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn,
Set,
Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta,
Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus.
Abassi [Sky]
Abonsam [Evil]
Abora [Supreme]
Abzu [Water]
Acoran [Supreme]
Adaheli [Sun]
Adro [Sky]
Adroa [Sky]
Agassou [Panther]
Agbe-Naete [Water]
Age [Animals]
Aigamuxa [Monster]
Ajalamo[Unborn Children]
Aje [Wealth]
Ajok [Supreme]
Akonadi [Oracle]
Akongo [Supreme]
Akuj [Supreme]
Ala [Earth/Fertility]
Alatangana [Creator]
Amma [Creator]
Anansi [Trickster]
Anyiewo [Snake]
Aondo [Creator]
Apa [Creator]
Apedemak [War]
Arawa [Moon]
Arebati [Sky]
Arom [Contracts]
Arsan Duolai [Underworld]
Asase Ya [Earth]
Ashiakle [Wealth]
Asis [Sun]
Astar [Sky]
Ataa Naa
Nyongmo
[Creator]
Ataokoloinona [Supreme]
Atete [Fertility]
Avrikiti [Fishermen]
Ayabba
[Ayaba] [Hearth]
Bacax [Cave]
Bagba [Wind]
Balubaal [Earth+]
Bandara [Superior Gods]
Banga [Clear water]
Behanzin [Fish]
Beher [Sea]
Bera Pennu [Vegetation]
Bo [Warriors]
Bomazi[Ancestors]
Buadza [WInd]
Buck[River]
Buku [Sky]
Bumba [Creator]
Cagn [Creator]
(!Kaggen)
Cghene [Creator]
Chiuke
(Chuku) [Creator]
Chiata [Supreme]
Chwezi [Hero]
Col [Rain]
Chikara [Sky]
Danh
(Dan Ayido Hwedo) [Snake]
Deng [Sky]
Deohako [Beans+]
Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods]
Dongo [Outer Space]
Dugbo [Earth]
Dxui [Creator]
Emeli-hi [Supreme]
Eranoranhan [Protector]
Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster]
Fa [Destiny]
Famien [Fertility]
Faro [Sky/Water]
Fidi Mukullu [Creator]
Garang and Abuk [First Humans]
Gbeni [Chief]
Gei (Gou) [Moon]
Gu [War/Smiths]
Gua [Sky]
Gulu [Supreme]
Gunab [Evil]
Guruhi [Evil]
Gurzil [Bull]
Gwalu [Rain]
Hammon [Setting Sun]
Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits]
Heitsi-Eibib [Sorcerer]
Hevioss [Thunder]
Huntin [Tree]
Huvean [Creator]
Ifa [Oracul]
Ikenga [Supreme]
Imana [Creator]
Iruwa [Sun]
Juok [Creator]
Kalumba [Creator]
Kalunga Supreme]
Katavi [Demonic]
Ka Tyeleo [Supreme]
Khebieso [Lightening]
Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon]
Kholomodumo [Monster]
Khuzwane [Creator]
Kibuka [War]
Kokola [Guardian]
Kwammang-a [Supreme]
Kwoth [Spirit]
Kyala [Creator]
Legba [Trickster]
Leza [Chief]
Libanza [Supreme]
Lisa [Chameleon]
Lyangombe[Chief]
Macardit [Demon]
Mantis [Creator]
Massim-Biambe [Creator]
Mawu [Sky]
Mawu-Lisa [Supreme Couple]
Mbotumbo [Supreme]
Medr [Earth]
Moomb [Creator]
Mon [?]
Mugasa
Mugu [Sky]
Mujaji [Rain]
Mukasa [Supreme]
Mula Djadi [Creator]
Muluku [Supreme]
Mulungu
Mungu [Creator]
Mungo (Mungu) [?]
Musa (Teaching]
Musisi [Supreme]
Mwari [Supreme]
Nampa [Personal]
Nana-Bouclou [First Gods]
Nana Buluk [Creator]
Ndjambi [Sky]
Ndriananahary [Supreme]
Nduru [Jungle]
Nenaunir [Storm]
Nesshoue [River]
Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator]
Ngewo-wa [Creator]
Ngworekara [Demon]
Niamye [Supreme]
Nkosi Yama'kosi [Supreme]
Nommo [Elemental]
Nommo [Spirit]
Nyama [Animal]
Nyambe [Supreme]
Nyambi (Nyambe) [Supreme]
Nyame
Nyami-Nyami [Guardian]
Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [Supreme]
Nyamia Ama [Supreme]
Nyasaye [Supeme]
Nzambi (Nzambi)
Mpunguo) [Supreme]
Nzame [Supreme]
Obassi Osaw [Supreme]
Obatala [Sky]
Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth]
Ogun (Ogoun) War]
Olokula [Sea]
Olorun [Supreme]
Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life]
Orahan [Supreme]
Orisa Nla [Creator]
Orishako [Agriculture]
Orunjan [Midday Sun]
Orunmila [Compassion]
Oshalla [?]
Osun [Beauty and Love]
Oya [Passion and Power]
Pemba (Bemba) Mother]
Qandisa [Demon]
Qamata[Quamta] Supreme]
Rock-Sene [Supreme]
Ruwa [Supreme]
Sagbata [Smallpox]
Sakarabru [Medicine]
Sakpata [Smallpox]
Sango [Thunder]
Shango [Thunder]
So [Lightening]
Tano [River]
Tore [Forest]
Trowu[Spirits]
Tsui'goab [Rain]
Twe [Lake]
Umvelinqangi [Creator]
Unkulunkulu [Supreme]
Unumbotte [Creator]
Waka [Rain]
Wele [Supreme]
Wulbari [Supreme]
Wuni [Supreme]
Xewioso [Thunder]
Yemaja [Creation]
Yo [Impersonal]
Zin [Water]
BUDDHIST
Abhijnaraja [Physician]
Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis]
Acala [?]
Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis]
Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis]
Adibuddha [First]
Adidharma [Primeval]
Aizen Myo-o [Protective]
Ajaya [?]
Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai
Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature]
Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani]
Amida [Savior]
Amitabha [A Dhyani]
Amitayus [Longevity]
Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara]
Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani]
Anantamukhi [Literature]
Arapacana [Book and Sword]
Arcismati [Bhumis]
Arhat [A Saint]
Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis]
Arya-Tara [Sakti]
Asokakanta [avatar Marici]
Asokottamasri [Physician]
Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla]
Asura [Group of Demons]
Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age]
Ayurvasita[One vasitas]
Balaparamita [Philosophy]
Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician]
Bhima[Attendant]
Bhrkuti[Female]
Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother]
Bhumi [Spiritual Spheres]
Bhutadarma [Demon Controller]
Bi-har [Protector]
Bodhidharma [Monk]
Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [Born to be Englightened]
Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas]
Buddhalocana [Female Buddha]
Budha [Mercury]
Butcho [?]
Chandarosana [Mahayana]
Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana]
Chakravartin [World Ruler]
Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa]
Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings]
Chittavista [Vashitas]
Citipati [Graveyard Demons]
Cunda [Literature]
Da-shi-zhi [Bodhisattva]
Dadimunda [Temples]
Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom]
Dakini [Demons]
Dala Kadavara [Demon]
Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank]
Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi]
Dharani [Mystical Texts]
Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma]
Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician]
Dharmamegha [Bhumis]
Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties]
Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis]
Dharmavasita [Vasitas]
Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians]
Dhupa [Mother]
Dhupatara [Mahayana]
Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya]
Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy]
Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas]
Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators]
Di-zang [Bodhisattvas of Hell]
Dvarapala [?]
Ekajata [Terrible]
Emma-o [Judges the Dead]
Fudo [WIsdom]
Guan Yin [bodhisattva]
Hariti [Ate Children]
Hayagriva [Protection]
Heruka [Protection]
Hevajra [Protection]
Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries]
Jambhala [avatar Vausravana]
Janguli [Snakebite cure]
Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence]
Jizo [Compassion]
Juichimen [Mercy]
Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo]
Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva]
Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [Indian bodhisattva]
Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o]
Krodhadevatas [Inspire Terror]
Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva]
Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy]
Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric]
Kurukulla [?]
Locana [?]
Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva]
Maitreya [Future]
Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva]
Manjusri [bodhisattva]
Mara [Evil]
Marici [Sun]
Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva
Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva
Mo-Li [Protects Temples]
Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara]
Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses]
Pandara [?]
Paramasva [?]
Parnasavari [?]
Prajna [Femaleness]
Prajnaparamita [Buddhist Text]
Ran-deng [Beggar and Future Buddha]
Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha]
Remanta [King of the Horse gods]
Sakyamuni [Japanese]
Samantabhadra [Bodhisattvas]
Saptaksara [avatar Heruka]
Shakra [King of the Gods]
Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven]
Sumbharaja [Buddhist Krodhadevata]
Tennin (Tennyo) [angels]
Usnisavijaya [?]
Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas]
Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World]
Vajrabhairava [?]
Vajrapani [Bodhisattvas]
Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha]
Vajravarahi [?]
Vajrayogini [Initiation]
Vajrayogini [Riches]
Vidyadharas [?]
Vidyujjvalakarali [?]
Vighnantaka [?]
Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World]
Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven]
Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva]
We-to [Divine General]
Yakushi Nyorai [Healing]
Yama [?]
Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas]
Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods]
CHINESE GODS
Ao [Sea]
Awun [Destruction]
Ba [Drought]
Ba Gua [Basis of Divination]
Bo Hsian [Taoist]
Cai-Shen [Riches]
Can Cong [Silkworms]
Cao Guo-jiu [Actors]
Chang Fei [War]
Chang Hs'ien [Children]
Chang Kuo-lao [?]
Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon]
Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife]
Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians]
Chen Jen [Spiritual Beings]
Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen]
Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Buskers]
Chih Nu [Weavers]
Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain]
Chih-Yu [Inventor]
Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian]
Chou Wang [Sodomy]
Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties]
Chu Jung [Fire]
Chu Lung [Day/Night]
Chung K'uei [Afterlife]
Chung-li Ch'uan [Immortal]
Confucius [Philosopher]
Di Zhang Xia [?]
Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God]
Erh-Lang [Guardian]
Fan-K'uei [Butchers]
Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind]
Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings]
Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind]
Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind]
Fo [Buddha]
Fu His [Taught Humanity]
Fu Hsing [Happiness]
Fu Shen [Happiness]
Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods]
Fu-xi [Hero]
Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement]
Gong Gong [Common Workers]
Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers]
Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling]
Gui Xian [Demon]
Han Hsiang [Immortal]
Han Xiang-zi [Immortal]
He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers]
Heng E (Change-e) [Moon]
He Xian-gu [Immortal]
Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples]
Heng-o [Moon]
Ho Hsien-ku [Immortal]
Ho Po [River]
Hou Chi [Harvest]
Hou I [Archer]
Hou T'u [Earth]
Hsien [Taoists]
Hsi Ho [Sun's Creator]
Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian]
Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven]
Hua Hsien [Flower]
Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero]
Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain]
Hu-Shen [Hail]
I [Bowmen]
Infoniwoo [Generation]
I-Ti [Wine]
K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil]
Kuan Yu [War]
K'uei Hsing [Examinations]
Lan Cai-he [Immortal]
Lao T'ien Yeh [Supreme]
Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher]
Lei Kung [Storm]
Lei-zi [Thunder]
Li [Fire]
Li Tie-guai [Immortal]
Liu [Crops]
Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [Immortal]
Lu-Hsing [Salaries/Employees]
Lung Wang [Dragon King]
Lupan [Carpenters]
Ma-Mien [Bureaucrat]
Meng (Meng P'o) [Underworld]
Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush]
Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng]
Mu Gong [Immortals]
Niu-Y'oun [Police]
Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage]
O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha]
Pa [Drought]
Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts]
Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals]
P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues]
'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos]
Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth]
Puhsien [Sun]
Ran-deng [Future Buddha]
San Ch'inga [Three Taos]
Shang Di (Shang Ti) [Supreme]
She Chi (Thu) [Earth]
Shen [Spirit]
Sheng Jen [Holy]
Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero]
Shen-T'u [Guardian]
Shen Yi [Sun]
Shiang Ku [Magician]
Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten]
Shou-Hsing [Longevity]
Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life]
Shou-Ts'ang [Servant]
Shui-Fu [Water]
Shui-Kuan [Defender]
Ssu Ming [Life and Death]
Sung-Chiang [Theives]
Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey]
Sun Hou-zi [Apes]
Sun-Pin [Cobblers]
T'ai I [High]
Tai-sui-xing [Time]
Tai-yi [Sky]
T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak]
Thu [Earth]
Tian [Sky]
Tian-zhu [Catholic]
Tien (T'ien) [Sky]
Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven]
T'ien-Kuan [Happiness]
T'ien Lung [Dragon]
Tien Mu [Lightening]
Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings]
Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness]
Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth]
Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy]
Ti Yu [Afterlife]
Tou Nu [North Star]
Ts'ai-Lun [Stationers]
Ts'ai Shen [Wealth]
Tsan [Demons]
Ts'ang Chien [Hearth]
Tsao Shen [?]
Tsao-Wang [Hearth]
Tu [Earth]
Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals]
T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality]
Wang [Palace Door]
Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian]
Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature]
Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri]
Wen Pu [Epidemics]
Wu Ti [Myth]
Xian [Spirits]
Xi-Wang-mu [Immortality]
Yama [Seventh hell]
Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [Underworld Prince]
Yao [Wind Conqueror]
Yao-shi-fo [Physician]
Yao Wang [Medicine]
Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death]
Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [Underworld Judge]
Yin and Yang [Male and Female]
Yo Fei [War]
Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds]
Yu-di (Yu Huang) [Supreme]
Yueh Fei [War]
Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High]
Yun T'ung [Clouds]
Yu-qiang [Sea]
Yu Shih [Rain]
Yu-tzu [Rain]
Zao Jun [Kitchen]
Zhang Guo-lao [Immortal]
Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations]
Zhong-li Quan [Immortal]
[Sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology]
Ahto [Water]
Akka [Harvest]
Egres [Vegetation/Fertility]
Hiisi [Forest/Evil]
Ilma [Air]
Ilmarinen [Sky]
Inmar [Sky]
Juma [Sky]
Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+]
Kalevanpojat [Demons]
Kalma [Death]
Kekri [Fertility Feast]
Kipu-Tytto [Illness]
Kondos [Sowing Crops]
Kuu [Moon]
Lemminkainen [Hero]
Louhi [Sorcery/Evil]
Loviatar [Disease]
Luonnotar [Creator]
Madderakka [Dwarves]
Maahiset [Dwarves]
Naaki [Water]
Nyrckes [?]
Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties]
Pajainen [?]
Pajonn [Thunder]
Para [Goblin Like]
Pellonpekko [Barley]
Raudna [?]
Rutu [Devil]
Sampsa [Vegetation]
Seides [Stones]
Rauni [?]
Tapio [Forest]
Tiermes [Thunder]
Tuoni [Underworld
Tursas [Monster]
Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder]
Vainamoinen [Hero]
Veralden-radien [World Pillars]
Waralden Olmai [World]
JAPANESE GODS
Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder]
Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star]
Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal]
Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility]
Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods]
Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil]
Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared]
Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth]
Bimbo-Gami [Poverty]
Bishamon [War]
Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea]
Daikoku [Wealth]
Ebisu [Labor]
Fuchi [Fire]
Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom]
Futsunushi [Lightening]
Gozu-Tenno [Plague]
Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind]
Hikohohodemi [Hero]
Hinokagutsuchi [Fire]
Hiruko [Morning Sun]
Hoderi [?]
Hisa-Me [Devils]
Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire]
Hosuseri [?]
Hotei [Laughter]
Inari [Prosperity]
Izanagi [Creator]
Izanami [Mother]
Jikoku [Guardians]
Jimmu Tenno [Founder]
Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity]
Kagu-tsuchi [Fire]
Kamado-gami [Hearth]
Kami [Divinities]
Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?]
Kami-Nari [Thunder]
Kamui [Sky]
Kappa [Water]
Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers]
Kishijoten [Luck]
Kishimojin [Demon]
Komoku [South]
Kompira [Wealth]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?]
Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First]
Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth]
Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow]
Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes]
Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes]
Ningyo [Mermaid]
Ninigi [Ruler Earth]
O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery]
Onamuji [Earth]
Omiwa [Protective]
Oni [Demons]
O-Wata-Tsumi [Sea]
O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain]
Raiden [Thunder]
Ryo-Wo [Sea]
Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain]
Sae-No-Kami [Roads]
Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain]
Sennin [Immortals]
Shichi-Fukujin [Luck]
Shiko-Me [Devils]
Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind]
Shitatera-Hime [?]
Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians]
Shojo [Satyrs]
Soko-No-Kuni [Underworld]
Suitengu [Sea]
Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs]
Shoki [Enemy of Devils]
Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [Storms]
Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family]
Takemikadzuchi [Thunder]
Take-Mi-Musubi [Sun]
Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain]
Tatsuta-hime [Autumn]
Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest]
Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy]
Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon]
Uji-gami [Ancestors]
Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and
Food]
Uzume [Mirth]
Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\
Wata-tsu-mi [Sea]
Yabune [House]
Zocho [South]
Shinto Amaterasu [Sun]
Ama-Tsu-Mara [Smiths]
Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral]
Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water]
Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [Supreme]
Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers]
Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental]
Ame-no-uzume [Dancers]
Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+]
Fujin [Wind]
Hachiman [War]
Ho-musubi [Fire]
Kami [Idols]
SOUTH ASIAN GODS
Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [Supreme]
Debata [?]
Empung Luminuut [?]
Hainuwele [?]
Hananim [Sky]
Hmin [Ague]
Karei [Supreme]
Kinharingan [Creator]
Kud [Evil]
Laseo [Sun]
Lature Dano [Supreme]
Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above]
Mahatala (Mahataral) [Supreme?]
Ma-zu [?]
Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval]
Narbrooi [Woodlands]
Nemu [Primodial]
Palk [Sun]
Puang Matowa [Sky]
Pulug [Thunder]
Reahu [Dark Demon]
Rigenmucha [Supreme]
Silewe Nazarata [?]
Sirao [First]
Ta Pedn [?]
Tnong [Sun]
Tumbrenjak [Original Man]
Upulevo [Sun]
Wunekau [Sun]
CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS
Abyrga [Snake]
Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms]
Aitvaras [Evil]
Alardi [Spirit]
Aralo [Agriculutre]
Armaz [Supreme]
Auseklis (Ausrine) [Stellar]
Baba [Spirit]
Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress]
Bagvarti [?]
Bangputys [Sea]
Bannik [Baths]
Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity]
Barastir (Barastaer) [Underworld]
Bardha [Elves]
Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War]
Beng [Satan]
Biegg-Olmai [Wind]
Bogatyri [Heroes]
Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children]
Bolla (Bullar) [Demon]
Buga [Supreme]
Bukura e dheut
[Good Spirit]
Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah]
Byelobog (Bielbog) [?]
Byelun [?]
Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?]
Chors [Sun]
Dabog [Sun]
Deive [Stone Spirits]
Dieva deli [?]
Dievini [Less Known Gods]
Dievs [Sky]
Djall [Devil]
Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household]
Donbittir [Water/Fish]
Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods]
Dud [Heavenly Spirit]
Dvorovoi [Courtyard]
Dyavo [Demons]
En [?]
Erlik [King of the Dead]
Es [Sky]
Fatit [Destiny]
Fene [Demon]
Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire]
Gabjauja [Corn]
Giltine [Death]
Guta [Demon]
Hadur [War]
Himavat [Himalayas]
Horagalles [War]
Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate]
Isten [Supreme]
Jagaubis [Fire]
Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War]
Jessis [avatar Jupiter]
Jumis [Fertility]
Juras Mate [Water]
Kaka-Guia [Funerary]
Kalvis [Smith]
Karta [Fate]
Kaukas [?]
Khors [Health/Hunting]
Khyung-gai mGo-can [?]
Kikimora [Household]
K'op'ala [Protective]
Kukuth (Kukudhi) [Sickness]
Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon]
Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon]
Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs]
Kurdalaegon [Blacksmiths]
Laima [Fate]
Lamaria [Hearth]
Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest]
Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility]
Laume [Fairy]
Leshy [Forest]
Lha [Bon Gods]
Lhamo [?]
Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs]
Ljubi [Demon]
Manzasiri [Primeval]
Mate [Mother]
Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth]
Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods]
Meness [Moon]
Menulis [Moon]
Meza Mate [Nature]
Mirsa [Light]
Mokos [Fertility]
Mu (rMu) [Heavenly]
Muma Padura [Wood]
Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon]
Nang Lha [Household]
Nari [Demon]
Nari [Sky]
Num [Sky]
Odqan [Fire]
Ora [Protective]
Ordog [Dark]
Pekar (Pehar) [Demon]
Peko [Barley]
Perendi [Jehovah]
Perit [Mountain Spirits]
Perkons [Thunder]
Perkunas [Thunder]
Perun (Peroun) [Thunder]
Polevik [Field]
Poludnitsa [Field]
Pon [Sky]
Porenutius (Porevit) [?]
Preas Eyn [?]
Preas Eyssaur [Destructive]
Preas Prohm [Primeval]
Prende (Prenne) [Love]
Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday]
Pugu [Sun]
Qormusta (Chormusta) [High]
Rugievit [War]
Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands]
Safa [Weapens]
Sanda [?]
Sarkany [Weather]
Saule [Sun]
Saules meitas [?]
Selardi [Moon]
Shen-Lha-od-dkar [Bon]
Shen-rab [Founder Bon]
Sipe Gyalmo [Bon]
Shiwini [Sun]
Shosshu [Smiths]
Siwini [Sun]
Srat [Demon]
Sri [Demon]
Sridevi [?]
Stribog [Winds]
Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture]
Svarog [Sky]
Syen [Guardian]
Stihi [Demon]
Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith]
Telyaveli [Smiths]
Tengri [Heavenly Beings]
Tesheba [Weather]
Thab-lha [Hearth]
Triglav (Trigelawus) [War]
Uacilla [Thunder/Rain]
Ulgen [Creator]
Urme [Fate]
Usins [?]
Vadatajs [Evil]
Vampire [Soul of Dead]
Veela [Kindess]
Veja mate [Winds]
Veles (Volos) [Underworld]
Velnias [Devil]
Velu mate [Dead]
Verbti [Fire/North Wind]
Vila [Water]
Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf]
Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf]
Vodnik [Demon]
Vodyanoi [Water]
Volos (Volusu) [Cattle]
We [Supreme]
Xhindi [Spirits]
Yarilo [Love]
Zaltys [Grass Snake]
Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [Supreme]
Zemes mate [Mother]
Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth]
Zorya [Guardian]
Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star]
SIBERIAN GODS
Ai Tojon [Light]
Ajysyt [Mother]
Anky-Kele [Sea]
Ayi [Creator]
Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters]
Hinkon [Death Demon]
K'daai [Fire Demon]
Kaltes [The Goddess]
Ke'lets [Death Demon]
Kurkil [Creator]
Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit]
Mayin [Supreme]
Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals]
Shurdi [Thunderstorms]
Tomam [Bird]
Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator]
Xucau [Supreme]
Ye'loje (Pugu) [Sun]
Carl Rooker
2005-06-29 13:32:24 UTC
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Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular God.
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.

The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that things be
done in his own way, or else.

God Bless
Carl
Bill
2005-06-29 19:55:25 UTC
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Post by Carl Rooker
Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular God.
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that things be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
I see the blind Jesus believers still have only one support for their
beliefs "just trust me!"
Where is your Objective verifiable evidence???
bckwrds
2005-06-30 02:40:24 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular
God.
Post by Carl Rooker
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that things be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
I see the blind Jesus believers still have only one support for their
beliefs "just trust me!"
Where is your Objective verifiable evidence???
just one short story.......

Both my sister and I are with our mom and other sibs for a days outing.
We're at the Pacific Ocean and we're both walking out as far as we can
(just my sis and I). The tide suddenly turns on us and we're caught in the
outgoing tide. Soon, neither one of us can touch the ocean bottom.
We both scream our loudest to get our mom's attention on the shore....
but this is the roaring Pacific and our screams go unanswered.

We're being pushed further and further out. I scream out "God! Help me!"
And God tells me to grap my sisters hand and walk in.

I turn to my sister and say "Linda, grap my hand and walk in!" She does
reach
out and takes my hand....and guess what? Just like that we both walk in.

just one short story....but then you'd have to believe me. My sister
remembers
this event that happened 40+ years ago. It happened. And it's just one
short story of my life.

bckwrds
Bill
2005-06-30 19:08:36 UTC
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This story proves absolutely nothing except that you were pulled into deeper
water by a rising wave and then were able to stand on the bottom after the
wave subsided.

I've been an ocean swimmer for over 60 years and this happens all the time.
It is a very natural phenomena that you have chosen to create into a
miracle.
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular
God.
Post by Carl Rooker
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that things be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
I see the blind Jesus believers still have only one support for their
beliefs "just trust me!"
Where is your Objective verifiable evidence???
just one short story.......
Both my sister and I are with our mom and other sibs for a days outing.
We're at the Pacific Ocean and we're both walking out as far as we can
(just my sis and I). The tide suddenly turns on us and we're caught in the
outgoing tide. Soon, neither one of us can touch the ocean bottom.
We both scream our loudest to get our mom's attention on the shore....
but this is the roaring Pacific and our screams go unanswered.
We're being pushed further and further out. I scream out "God! Help me!"
And God tells me to grap my sisters hand and walk in.
I turn to my sister and say "Linda, grap my hand and walk in!" She does
reach
out and takes my hand....and guess what? Just like that we both walk in.
just one short story....but then you'd have to believe me. My sister
remembers
this event that happened 40+ years ago. It happened. And it's just one
short story of my life.
bckwrds
bckwrds
2005-06-30 23:18:13 UTC
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Post by Bill
This story proves absolutely nothing except that you were pulled into deeper
water by a rising wave and then were able to stand on the bottom after the
wave subsided.
I've been an ocean swimmer for over 60 years and this happens all the time.
It is a very natural phenomena that you have chosen to create into a
miracle.
I didn't know that you were there to have witnessed this event in
my life. ;] You're wrong. There was no huge wave(s). The tide
had turned. Neither my sister nor I could touch the ocean bottom.
I've been a swimmer for 50+ years but this event only happened
once to me.

Miracles happen all the time. Do you not read the papers or watch
the news? There are many stories out there.

Like I had written earlier, one would have to believe me and you
didn't. But that doesn't make this one story of my life untrue.

bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular
God.
Post by Carl Rooker
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that
things
be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
I see the blind Jesus believers still have only one support for their
beliefs "just trust me!"
Where is your Objective verifiable evidence???
just one short story.......
Both my sister and I are with our mom and other sibs for a days outing.
We're at the Pacific Ocean and we're both walking out as far as we can
(just my sis and I). The tide suddenly turns on us and we're caught in
the
Post by bckwrds
outgoing tide. Soon, neither one of us can touch the ocean bottom.
We both scream our loudest to get our mom's attention on the shore....
but this is the roaring Pacific and our screams go unanswered.
We're being pushed further and further out. I scream out "God! Help me!"
And God tells me to grap my sisters hand and walk in.
I turn to my sister and say "Linda, grap my hand and walk in!" She does
reach
out and takes my hand....and guess what? Just like that we both walk in.
just one short story....but then you'd have to believe me. My sister
remembers
this event that happened 40+ years ago. It happened. And it's just one
short story of my life.
bckwrds
Bill
2005-07-01 23:45:51 UTC
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Dream on!!!
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
This story proves absolutely nothing except that you were pulled into deeper
water by a rising wave and then were able to stand on the bottom after the
wave subsided.
I've been an ocean swimmer for over 60 years and this happens all the time.
It is a very natural phenomena that you have chosen to create into a
miracle.
I didn't know that you were there to have witnessed this event in
my life. ;] You're wrong. There was no huge wave(s). The tide
had turned. Neither my sister nor I could touch the ocean bottom.
I've been a swimmer for 50+ years but this event only happened
once to me.
Miracles happen all the time. Do you not read the papers or watch
the news? There are many stories out there.
Like I had written earlier, one would have to believe me and you
didn't. But that doesn't make this one story of my life untrue.
bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by Carl Rooker
Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular
God.
Post by Carl Rooker
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that
things
be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
I see the blind Jesus believers still have only one support for their
beliefs "just trust me!"
Where is your Objective verifiable evidence???
just one short story.......
Both my sister and I are with our mom and other sibs for a days outing.
We're at the Pacific Ocean and we're both walking out as far as we can
(just my sis and I). The tide suddenly turns on us and we're caught in
the
Post by bckwrds
outgoing tide. Soon, neither one of us can touch the ocean bottom.
We both scream our loudest to get our mom's attention on the shore....
but this is the roaring Pacific and our screams go unanswered.
We're being pushed further and further out. I scream out "God! Help me!"
And God tells me to grap my sisters hand and walk in.
I turn to my sister and say "Linda, grap my hand and walk in!" She does
reach
out and takes my hand....and guess what? Just like that we both walk in.
just one short story....but then you'd have to believe me. My sister
remembers
this event that happened 40+ years ago. It happened. And it's just one
short story of my life.
bckwrds
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2005-07-08 01:29:54 UTC
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Post by bckwrds
I didn't know that you were there to have witnessed this event in
my life. ;] You're wrong. There was no huge wave(s). The tide
had turned. Neither my sister nor I could touch the ocean bottom.
I've been a swimmer for 50+ years but this event only happened
once to me.
Miracles happen all the time. Do you not read the papers or watch
the news? There are many stories out there.
sure, there are stories about images of the virgin mary appearing in a water
stain, in a window pane, etc.
Hey, the shit I took last night looks like the virgin mary too, how much are
the religious nutcases willing to pay for it?
unknown
2005-07-13 14:44:55 UTC
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Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
sure, there are stories about images of the virgin mary
appearing in a water stain, in a window pane, etc.
Could you tell us where, as there's a virgin shortage in the UK, and we
need a few to sacrifice.
Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
Hey, the shit I took last night looks like the virgin mary too,
how much are the religious nutcases willing to pay for it?
Where did you take it? I usually flush mine away.

You liberal agnostic humanist atheist trash really are disgusting.
--
Rev Dr Pastor Dick F Foot MA, DD, FFD
The Guardian of English Christianity
Broomleigh Baptist Church AG (Zürich)
111 Lime Walk, Chelmsford CM2 9NJ, Great Britain
http://www.broomleigh.com/
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
2005-06-30 01:07:56 UTC
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where is the PHYSICAL proof?

if your god is so damn great, then tell the damn jackass to show up at my
door tomorrow morning, I will be waiting.
7:30 a.m.
bckwrds
2005-06-30 02:35:06 UTC
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Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
where is the PHYSICAL proof?
if your god is so damn great, then tell the damn jackass to show up at my
door tomorrow morning, I will be waiting.
7:30 a.m.
God works in mysterious ways! Suppose God does show up tomorrow
at your door. Would you recognise God? Or Jesus?
Pastor Frank
2005-07-06 00:59:07 UTC
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Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
where is the PHYSICAL proof?
if your god is so damn great, then tell the damn jackass to show up at my
door tomorrow morning, I will be waiting.
7:30 a.m.
The god or devil of your definition doesn't exist, so quit posting this
nonsense already!!!
Bill
2005-07-09 00:58:04 UTC
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The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths created by
man>
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
where is the PHYSICAL proof?
if your god is so damn great, then tell the damn jackass to show up at my
door tomorrow morning, I will be waiting.
7:30 a.m.
The god or devil of your definition doesn't exist, so quit posting this
nonsense already!!!
Your Name Here=Harvey
2005-07-09 01:07:46 UTC
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I have to agree - that god, God, gods lie in the imagination, because
when you ask anyone to show me that god, God, gods exist --- they can't.
And to refer to biblical passages, as proof, is no proof at all.

Which is all reasonable and logical.

And if anyone says - oh, electricity, magnetism, etc exists, but we
can't see it. Is a nonsense argument and irrelevant. That is not a suitable
analogy at all, because you cannot equate God with electricity, etc.
It is not the same.


Harvey


In article <ZfFze.29247$***@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, ***@bellsouth.net
says...
Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths created by
man>
Post by Pastor Frank
Post by SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
where is the PHYSICAL proof?
if your god is so damn great, then tell the damn jackass to show up at my
door tomorrow morning, I will be waiting.
7:30 a.m.
The god or devil of your definition doesn't exist, so quit posting this
nonsense already!!!
bckwrds
2005-07-09 03:34:47 UTC
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Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths created
by man>
Bill, whom are you trying to convince and why? No one is making
you believe anything so why are you posting your beliefs?

bckwrds
Bill
2005-07-10 00:13:58 UTC
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I'm trying to save people from their hell on earth and their indoctrination
of children into their damaging nonsense.

I also wish to protect my self from the offensive laws and regulations that
impinge on my freedoms.
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths created
by man>
Bill, whom are you trying to convince and why? No one is making
you believe anything so why are you posting your beliefs?
bckwrds
bckwrds
2005-07-10 03:26:56 UTC
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Post by Bill
I'm trying to save people from their hell on earth and their
indoctrination of children into their damaging nonsense.
But I don't consider myself living in hell though at times it is
hard. And I find it strange that you use the word "save" in
your efforts.

Was someone you know abused in some way
using religion as an excuse? Was this person a child at the
time? That does happen. But that doesn't equal there being
no God. Just more people problem(s).
Post by Bill
I also wish to protect my self from the offensive laws and regulations
that impinge on my freedoms.
What current law has caused you to start believing? What
regulation(s) has impinge on your freedom? You are free to
believe or not to believe.

So again, why are you here?

bckwrds
Post by Bill
Post by bckwrds
Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths created
by man>
Bill, whom are you trying to convince and why? No one is making
you believe anything so why are you posting your beliefs?
bckwrds
Pastor Frank
2005-07-11 10:01:39 UTC
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Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths
created by man>
The fake Pastor Frank cancelled the message to which you were responding.
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-11 18:39:10 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill
The objective evidence is that NO GODS exist. They are all myths
created by man>
The fake Pastor Frank cancelled the message to which you were responding.
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Please stop posting in other people's names, Broomleigh's Richard
Foot. It's not funny!!!
Pastor Frank
2005-07-12 04:46:58 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Please stop posting in other people's names,
Broomleigh's Richard Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-13 20:08:05 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Please stop posting in other people's names,
Broomleigh's Richard Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!
Pastor Frank
2005-07-14 18:02:32 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's
names, Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?

You should stop posting altogether. You are capable of far better, and of
doing it in your own name.

Stay away from Christians, as we have a certain obligation towards people
like you, fake Pastor Frank. "If a man also lieth with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).

Please disregard the fake Pastor Frank.
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-15 08:00:20 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's
names, Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
You should stop posting altogether. You are capable of far better, and of
doing it in your own name.
Stay away from Christians, as we have a certain obligation towards people
like you, fake Pastor Frank. "If a man also lieth with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).
Please disregard the fake Pastor Frank.
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Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!
Pastor Frank
2005-07-15 16:22:33 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-16 02:17:57 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!

Pastor Frank
2005-07-12 12:07:57 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Please stop posting in other people's names, Broomleigh's
Richard Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-13 20:07:21 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Please stop posting in other people's names, Broomleigh's
Richard Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!
Pastor Frank
2005-07-14 18:00:46 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-15 08:00:55 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!
Pastor Frank
2005-07-15 16:31:08 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?

Please disregard the fake Pastor Frank.
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Pastor Frank
2005-07-16 02:17:14 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Pastor Frank
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names,
Dick Foot. It's not funny!!!
Where is Flevoland?
Please disregard the fake Pastor Frank.
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Stop posting in mine and/or Schornak's names, Dick Foot. It's not
funny!!!
Pastor Frank  
2005-07-12 12:10:25 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
The god or devil of your definition doesn't exist,
so quit posting this nonsense already!!!
Where is Flevoland?
--
Pastor Frank Bernhard Schornak
Broomleigh Evangelische Kirche GmbH (Zurich)
Hardenbergstr. 14, D-Augsburg 86165, Germany
+ 49 - 0821 - 729 87 83
http://www.pastorfrank.broomleigh.com/
Your Name Here=Harvey
2005-06-30 11:01:31 UTC
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Post by bckwrds
I have proof but you'd have to believe me. Actually, I have
many stories that I could tell you that proves there is a God
and that Jesus is the son of God. But then again, it means
you'd have to believe me and what's happened in my life.
I wouldn't expect you to believe me even though my stories
are true....just like God and Jesus.
Donna
You have hit on the exact truth about why we believe in this particular God.
It is because He has made certain promises, and He keeps them.
The closed minded will never even consider such, but demand that things be
done in his own way, or else.
God Bless
Carl
The ordinary everyday world in which we all live - proves beyond all
doubt that God does not exist, and that Christianity and the bible
does not amount to what they claim.
Even with your life example - you have to be able to discern that
it is exactly what you believe it to be - re: your own evidence for
Jesus/God/etc - that it 100% backs up your beliefs undoubtedly.
Supernatural events may not be attributed to Jesus/God/etc if
there is only the belief they are.
ie. I'm saying that only in the Bible (that which was written after
the events, and then edited and re-edited long long long afterwards --
delve into the history of the bible to confirm this is what happened)
does God say 'exact' words that cannot be miscontrued.
People want 100% proof and confirmation that it is so, as you describe
and believe....

Harvey
fred
2005-06-30 00:05:18 UTC
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Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
There is absolutely no logic or objective verifiable evidence to prove and
support god beliefs and a glorious life after death.
The miniscule percent of people who have claimed personal contact with any
God are those who are mentally delusional or who obtain selfish personal
gains from claiming these contacts. There is absolutely no objective
verifiable evidence that any of these so called "God contacts" were real.
And of the thousands of gods, which ones were contacted?
I'm not going to deny that many people enjoy the attention that
claiming such things gets them. However...

There is no explanation for our minds. You can pretend, along with
atheists and evolutionists, that the mind is a product of evolution.
But other than the evolution hearsay that people actually put their
faith into as much as others put their faith into Jesus Christ, there
is no scientific explanation for why we are able to think and make
choices. Regarding our minds as examples of divine handiwork is the
only meaningful explanation for our minds.

You're problem is that you are a slave to your undisciplined
imagination, unwilling to apply your faith with respect to your
understanding of spiritual things.

By the way, consider that prayer can be regarded as personal contact
with God. And since anybody can pray then anybody can "contact" God.

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Bill
2005-06-30 19:27:37 UTC
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Post by Bill
The case for believing in god?
There is absolutely no logic or objective verifiable evidence to prove and
support god beliefs and a glorious life after death.
The miniscule percent of people who have claimed personal contact with any
God are those who are mentally delusional or who obtain selfish personal
gains from claiming these contacts. There is absolutely no objective
verifiable evidence that any of these so called "God contacts" were real.
And of the thousands of gods, which ones were contacted?
I'm not going to deny that many people enjoy the attention that
claiming such things gets them. However...
There is no explanation for our minds. You can pretend, along with
atheists and evolutionists, that the mind is a product of evolution.
But other than the evolution hearsay that people actually put their
faith into as much as others put their faith into Jesus Christ, there
is no scientific explanation for why we are able to think and make
choices.
Most of the animals in the animal kingdom make choices based on the
ocurrences in their environment.
This is the function of the simplest brains and is no evidence of a god
creator.

Non of this is evidence that there has to be a god creator. And if there
must be a god creator, who or what
created god? Why can your god just happen but the Universe can't?


Why is your god so secretive that he will not announce from his heaven to
all of his creations that he is the real god and all the others are fakes?
Why does he attempt ( pretty ineffectively I might add ) to tell us about
himself and his commands via ancient incoherent and implausable tales in
ancient documents like the copies, of copies of the Bibles? There are no
original documents in existence.
Post by fred
Regarding our minds as examples of divine handiwork is the
only meaningful explanation for our minds.
Evolution is a more varifiable source.
Post by fred
You're problem is that you are a slave to your undisciplined
imagination, unwilling to apply your faith with respect to your
understanding of spiritual things.
Not true. My thoughts are not based on my imagination but scientific
varifiable facts.
Post by fred
By the way, consider that prayer can be regarded as personal contact
with God. And since anybody can pray then anybody can "contact" God.
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Who's god do you contact? There are thousands.
There is NO objective evidence that any sane and honest person has actually
conversed any god.
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