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CHALLENGE TO RELIGIONIST
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Bill M
2007-12-16 13:13:56 UTC
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A challenge to all religious believers.



There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.



How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to

be misled by all these fakes?



Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually

exists? If so, what is it?



Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
Pastor Frank
2007-12-17 10:17:43 UTC
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Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him, (Jesus
in John 3:3) and no, we won't send you all our money as "objective,
verifiable evidence", to prove our love for you. That's what you are after,
aren't you?
You will just have to believe us, that we answer your posts because we
love you in the Lord and that this loving action evidences our God, whose
essence is that very love and care we show others.
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bob young
2007-12-23 04:30:02 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary.
How do you know that yours is real?
Post by Pastor Frank
We
therefore know our God and have seen Him.
Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
Post by Pastor Frank
(Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him,
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
Post by Pastor Frank
(Jesus
in John 3:3) and no, we won't send you all our money as "objective,
verifiable evidence", to prove our love for you. That's what you are after,
aren't you?
Nope -we are after logical facts, nothing more - over to you
Post by Pastor Frank
You will just have to believe us............
Aaaaaah at last, the scam is revealed for what it is
Post by Pastor Frank
that we answer your posts because we
love you
I love people too, good kind deecnt people and i can do it quite well without
an imaginary mascot
Post by Pastor Frank
in the Lord and that this loving action evidences our God,
If your love is real the actions are yours and proves nothing about the
existence of any god, as you full well know
Post by Pastor Frank
whose
essence is that very love and care we show others.
[do I detect a touch of arrogance there?]

When I give old Mrs. Wong a lift up our mountain road in my car as she
struggles home with her shopping the thought comes from my brain not from some
silly invisible deity. When did you last give someone a lift Frank?

Your posts are not lifting - they are a repetitive drudge
Post by Pastor Frank
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Pastor Frank
2007-12-24 02:25:28 UTC
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Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary.
How do you know that yours is real?
My love is real enough, for I bother to answer you, don't I?
Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
We
therefore know our God and have seen Him.
Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
What "fakes"? If there are "fakes" then it's got to be a mutliple choice
test. Perhapa you are supposed to choose the right one?
Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
(Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him,
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
That's just your imagination playing tricks on you, for Jesus isn't
secretive" at all!!!
Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
(Jesus
in John 3:3) and no, we won't send you all our money as "objective,
verifiable evidence", to prove our love for you. That's what you are after,
aren't you?
Nope -we are after logical facts, nothing more - over to you
Yup, nothing like cash in the mail.
Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
You will just have to believe us............
Aaaaaah at last, the scam is revealed for what it is
Post by Pastor Frank
that we answer your posts because we
love you
I love people too, good kind deecnt people and i can do it quite well without
an imaginary mascot
That's only a "mascot" in your world. In our world its called an ideal.
And no, you don't "love people" Bob, for all you do all day, every day is
trash other people's beliefs, if not flame their person besides.
Post by Bill M
Post by Pastor Frank
in the Lord and that this loving action evidences our God,
If your love is real the actions are yours and proves nothing about the
existence of any god, as you full well know
Post by Pastor Frank
whose
essence is that very love and care we show others.
[do I detect a touch of arrogance there?]
When I give old Mrs. Wong a lift up our mountain road in my car as she
struggles home with her shopping the thought comes from my brain not from some
silly invisible deity. When did you last give someone a lift Frank?
Your posts are not lifting - they are a repetitive drudge
Post by Pastor Frank
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Barry OGrady
2007-12-23 09:38:18 UTC
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Post by Pastor Frank
Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him, (Jesus
in John 3:3) and no, we won't send you all our money as "objective,
verifiable evidence", to prove our love for you. That's what you are after,
aren't you?
You will just have to believe us, that we answer your posts because we
love you in the Lord and that this loving action evidences our God, whose
essence is that very love and care we show others.
Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?

Barry
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Michael
2007-12-22 03:26:31 UTC
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Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
Not many of them on alt.atheism.
Post by Bill M
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
Indeed. Also thousands of genres of songs and at least dozens of genres
of books.
Post by Bill M
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
He has provided useful, factual and immediate information to me on several
occasions.

I cannot answer "why" questions with regard to any god. I speak for no
other person.
Post by Bill M
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Your limitations exclude God from your consideration, but not from reality.
Post by Bill M
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
You must ask God "why" questions. Perhaps you meant "elusive". I have my
theories with regard to this question, you are welcome to your own
theories.
Pastor Frank
2007-12-22 14:51:38 UTC
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Post by Michael
Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
Not many of them on alt.atheism.
Post by Bill M
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
Indeed. Also thousands of genres of songs and at least dozens of genres
of books.
Post by Bill M
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
He has provided useful, factual and immediate information to me on several
occasions.
I cannot answer "why" questions with regard to any god. I speak for no
other person.
Post by Bill M
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
Your limitations exclude God from your consideration, but not from reality.
Post by Bill M
Why is a God being so secretive and illusive?
You must ask God "why" questions. Perhaps you meant "elusive". I have my
theories with regard to this question, you are welcome to your own
theories.
Jesus Christ is our Christian God incarnate, and He is neither
"secretive" nor "elusive".
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Karl Johanson
2008-01-23 05:14:21 UTC
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Post by Michael
Post by Bill M
A challenge to all religious believers.
Not many of them on alt.atheism.
Post by Bill M
There are thousands of different God and religious beliefs.
Indeed. Also thousands of genres of songs and at least dozens of genres
of books.
Post by Bill M
How do you know that yours is real? Why does your God permit his creations
to be misled by all these fakes?
He has provided useful, factual and immediate information to me on several
occasions.
When you think you're seeing signs of god, you're actually seeing signs
of Batman, and misinterpreting them.

Karl Johanson
Michael Rippie
2008-02-24 04:46:43 UTC
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Post by Bill M
Is there any objective verifiable and reproducible evidence that ANY God
actually exists? If so, what is it?
It is motion and rest.

.--Mark

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A preacher is the blind leading the blind.

John Baker
2007-12-24 23:09:29 UTC
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:23:30 -0800 (PST), Dylan Knight Rogers
I did not know "Religionist" was a acceptable terminology.
I submit that it is not.
Would you prefer "Bible-banging fuckwit"?
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