The Pope on Creation comment

[MikeA]

The Pope on Creation

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 12, 2005

VATICAN CITY, Nov. 11 (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI has waded into the evolution debate in the United States, saying the universe was made as an "intelligent project" and criticizing those who say its creation was without direction.


Benedict's comments, made during his general audience on Wednesday, were published Thursday.

The pope focused on scriptural readings that said God's love was seen in the "marvels of creation." He quoted St. Basil the Great as saying that some people, "fooled by the atheism that they carry inside of them, imagine a universe free of direction and order, as if at the mercy of chance."

source:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/international/europe/12pope.html

And from Pope JohnPaul II
What is the significance of the Pope's recent support of evolution?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c017.html


Mike Ang
www.mikeang.net/wepay4you.htm

This could change your money situation
http://tinyurl.com/bsnc7




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[Bill]

Has ANY God spoke to you other than in your dreams? Have you ANY tangible,
OBJECTIVE evidence for the existence of ANY Gods? There are thousands of God
beliefs. Which, if any,

Is the real God and which are fakes?



Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent Gods



Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him a God?



What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth,

folklore and legend. Non are based on scientific knowledge and objective,
verifiable, reproducible evidence..



The Christian faith, and other faiths, are NOT founded on FAITH IN GOD but
faith in MEN.

The Bibles? The Bibles were created over 1,400 years before the invention
of the printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by MEN. Inspired by
God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What do
they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. The Bibles are folklore,
myth and contradictory impossible stories created by MEN. There is not one
shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of the Bibles are the word
of ANY God. In fact they are books of pure myth, legend and nonsense.



Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God?


Since no real God shows up in person, from the heavens or on International
TV to give us anything to believe in, the only option available to us is to
put our trust in what selfish errant MEN say and think about Gods. To put
one's faith in the stories, superstitions, myths and subjective thoughts and
feelings of ancient MEN is not faith in God, but faith in errant MEN. Faith
in what greedy avaricious MEN, whom we have never met and have NO objective
knowledge of their veracity and honesty. Ultimately, it is faith in MEN not
God! If there is a REAL God, why does he not appear to all mankind and show
he is the real God and that all the others are fakes? Man can accurately
communicate with almost the whole world via TV, the Internet, Newsprint, and
Radio Why does the real God not inform us in a clear unquestionable manner
that he is the REAL God and what are his wishes and demands? It appears that
ALL of them are fakes and inventions of selfish errant MEN.



The objective evidence is rather strong that NO GODS CREATED MAN, but quite
the opposite,

that MAN CREATED GODS.

Post by MikeA
The Pope on Creation
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 12, 2005
VATICAN CITY, Nov. 11 (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI has waded into the
evolution debate in the United States, saying the universe was made as an
"intelligent project" and criticizing those who say its creation was
without direction.
Benedict's comments, made during his general audience on Wednesday, were
published Thursday.
The pope focused on scriptural readings that said God's love was seen in
the "marvels of creation." He quoted St. Basil the Great as saying that
some people, "fooled by the atheism that they carry inside of them,
imagine a universe free of direction and order, as if at the mercy of
chance."
source:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/international/europe/12pope.html
And from Pope JohnPaul II
What is the significance of the Pope's recent support of evolution?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c017.html
Mike Ang
www.mikeang.net/wepay4you.htm
This could change your money situation
http://tinyurl.com/bsnc7
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[Alexander]

Post by Bill
Has ANY God spoke to you other than in your dreams?

Have you ANY tangible,

Post by Bill
OBJECTIVE evidence for the existence of ANY Gods?

If there is a God, to me It would be The Universe Itself. ---- Alexander

There are thousands of God

Post by Bill
beliefs. Which, if any,
Is the real God and which are fakes?

Well, The Universe can be looked at as a God in a sense or manner of
speaking or metaphoric sense. ----- Alexander

Post by Bill
Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent Gods
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? NO ----- Alexander
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? No ----- Alexander
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? No ----- Alexander
Then where does evil come from? It is a concept made by human

ind. ----- Alexander

Post by Bill
Is he neither able nor willing? No ----- Alexander
Then why call him a God? The Universe can be said to be in a

metaphorice sense a God, but not a litteral theistic God. ----- Alexander

Post by Bill
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology?

Mythology is based on twisted truths which were made distorted to a point
in which makes no logical sense. Astrology is the study of the Cosmos and
their effects on our physical and emotional functions, like the rising of
tides and other physical phenomenaes. Nothing outside of Natural Laws and
Attributes. ----- Alexander

All three are founded on myth, folklore and legend. Non are based on
scientific knowledge and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence..

Post by Bill
The Christian faith, and other faiths, are NOT founded on FAITH IN GOD

but faith in MEN. The Bibles? The Bibles were created over 1,400 years
before the invention of the printing press. Written, interpreted, hand
copied, modified and recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by
MEN. Inspired by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones
chosen by MEN. What do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God?
Just the OPINION of MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary
selfish. self promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. The Bibles
are folklore, myth and contradictory impossible stories created by MEN.
There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of the
Bibles are the word of ANY God. In fact they are books of pure myth, legend
and nonsense.

Post by Bill
Of all the THOUSANDS of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is

the real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God?

That which can be proven without a room for doubt. ----- Alexander

Post by Bill
Since no real God shows up in person, from the heavens or on

International TV to give us anything to believe in, the only option
available to us is to put our trust in what selfish errant MEN say and think
about Gods. To put one's faith in the stories, superstitions, myths and
subjective thoughts and feelings of ancient MEN is not faith in God, but
faith in errant MEN. Faith in what greedy avaricious MEN, whom we have never
met and have NO objective knowledge of their veracity and honesty.
Ultimately, it is faith in MEN not God! If there is a REAL God, why does he
not appear to all mankind and show he is the real God and that all the
others are fakes? Man can accurately communicate with almost the whole world
via TV, the Internet, Newsprint, and Radio Why does the real God not inform
us in a clear unquestionable manner that he is the REAL God and what are his
wishes and demands? It appears that ALL of them are fakes and inventions of
selfish errant MEN.

Post by Bill
The objective evidence is rather strong that NO GODS CREATED MAN, but

quitethe opposite, that MAN CREATED GODS.

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Alexander
(Unitarian Universlalist Pantheist)