Discussion:
IS THERE A REAL GOD
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Bill M
2008-06-14 17:58:37 UTC
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There is no objective verifiable evidence for the existence of any real
gods. It IS obvious all god beliefs are no more than the IMAGINATIONS of
man.



There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?



Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.

Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the others
are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?



Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.



Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that ANY god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!



Why has no god ever communicated directly with the sane members of society?



Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?



What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific knowledge
and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.



The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in Priests,
Ministers, Shaman, ayatollahs and other religious leaders.



Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN. Inspired
by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen by MEN. What
do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just the OPINION of
errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary selfish. self
promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These religious texts are
nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and impossible stories created by
MEN. There is not one shred of objective verifiable evidence that ANY of
these ancient documents are the word of ANY God. They are purely myths and
fables.



Of all the hundreds of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God



There is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?



Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;



Baha'i Sacrid writtings

Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon

The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.

NO, NADA originals of the old or new testaments exist.

The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints

The Analects - Confuscianism

The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs

Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome

Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism

Qur'an - Islam

Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs

Tanakh - Jewism

Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism

Nag Hammadi - Gnostics

Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong



Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and further
copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal and
selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of Morman, were
hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the invention of the
printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity or accuracy of any
of these. The objective evidence is that they are a mixture of inaccurate
history, myth, folklore and legend.



Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???
Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)
2008-06-15 02:32:58 UTC
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Of course not, are you foolish? They made it all up back when everybody
believed fairy tales to be true.
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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8
Logan Square
2008-09-01 02:46:37 UTC
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You're way too crabby to deal with on this issue.
Post by Bill M
There is no objective verifiable evidence for the existence of any real
gods. It IS obvious all god beliefs are no more than the IMAGINATIONS of
man.
There are a thousands different religious/god beliefs. If there was a REAL
god, why would he permit all this misleading information to mislead and
confuse his flock?
Man can communicate with the whole world via TV, Radio, Cell Phone and the
Internet.
Certainly any real God should be able to do equally well! Why would he not
announce directly from his heaven that he is the real god and all the
others are fakes? Why would he not smite all the fakes?
Why does he permit all this confusion and doubt? The objective evidence is
that all gods are purely the creation of men to assuage his panic fear of
the finality of death.
Does anyone have OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that ANY god actually
exists??? The millions of opinions expressed over the centuries are not
evidence. They are merely 'opinions'!
Why has no god ever communicated directly with the sane members of society?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a God?
What distinguishes theology from mythology and astrology? All three are
founded on myth, folklore and legend. NONE are based on scientific
knowledge and objective, verifiable, reproducible evidence.
The religious faiths are not founded on faith in God but faith in Priests,
Ministers, Shaman, ayatollahs and other religious leaders.
Religious texts? They were created centuries before the invention of the
printing press. Written, interpreted, hand copied, modified, altered and
recopied by hundreds of MEN over thousands of years by other MEN.
Inspired by God? So MEN say. Which books are Scripture? The ones chosen
by MEN. What do they mean? What MEN say they mean. Dictated by God? Just
the OPINION of errant MEN. What is God telling you? Whatever MEN (ordinary
selfish. self promoting, errant humans) CLAIM he is telling you. These
religious texts are nothing but folklore, myth, contradictory and
impossible stories created by MEN. There is not one shred of objective
verifiable evidence that ANY of these ancient documents are the word of
ANY God. They are purely myths and fables.
Of all the hundreds of God beliefs and claims, how do we know which is the
real God and which are fakes? What MEN tell their flock is the real God
There is a wealth of different religious documents that proclaim the
validity of various Gods. Which, if any, are correct?
Here are just some of the religious texts and documents;
Baha'i Sacrid writtings
Life of Buddha - Dhammapada - Pali cannon
The Bible - Christian religious documents - 18 English versions alone.
NO, NADA originals of the old or new testaments exist.
The Book of Mormon - Church of Latter Day Saints
The Analects - Confuscianism
The Eddas and Sagas - Icelandic beliefs
Wicca - Neo paganism of Greece and Rome
Bhagavgita and Rig Veda - Hinduism
Qur'an - Islam
Adi Granth and Dasam Granth - canonical scripture of the Sikhs
Tanakh - Jewism
Tao-Te-Ching - Taoism
Nag Hammadi - Gnostics
Zhuan Falun - Falun Gong
Of all these different Gods and belief systems which is the true one, if
any, and which are fakes? None of these documents are any objective
evidence. They are all documents written, hand copied, modified and
further copied, over the centuries, by errant men with their own personal
and selfish motivations. All of these documents, except the Book of
Morman, were hand written and hand copied over the centuries before the
invention of the printing press. There is no way to determine authenticity
or accuracy of any of these. The objective evidence is that they are a
mixture of inaccurate history, myth, folklore and legend.
Does it make sense to base ones life on myths and fables of ancient men???
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